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Mass shooting @ Connecticut elementary school. 20 children killed.

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  1. James Long

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    There are extremes to the argument. The simple words do not limit ownership to those pledged to a militia supporting the new government.

    Fortunately interpretation has not chosen either extreme.
     
  2. James Long

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    Police: Cedar Lake man wanted to kill 'as many people as he could' at elementary school

    CEDAR LAKE | While the tragic shooting of children was unfolding at a Connecticut school Friday, Cedar Lake police and the Lake County Sheriff’s Department were busy dealing with reports a man threatening to kill "as many people as he could" at Jane Ball Elementary School.

    Interim Cedar Lake Police Chief Gerald A. Smith said his officers were called to the home of Von Meyer, 60, in the 9300 block of West 93rd Avenue on Friday morning.

    Smith said Meyer allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire after she fell asleep.

    A police statement says Meyer also said he would enter Jane Ball Elementary School and "kill as many people as he could" before police could possible stop him.

    Meyer’s home is located within 1,000 feet of the school and connected through a set of trails and walking paths, Smith said. Inside his home, authorities found 47 guns and ammunition worth more than $100,000.
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  3. yosoyellobo

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  4. RunnerFL

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    But at some point securing your home turns into building your own prison.
     
  5. armophob

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    Probably a bit early for that, if ever, wrong stage for that debate
     
  6. MysteryMan

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    Read the Constitution. The framers use the word people, not collective bodies when describing our rights and liberties.
     
  7. Hoosier205

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    "Read the Constitution" sounds rediculous no matter who says it. There have been 112 SCOTUS justices in our entire history as a country and each has had their own differing interpretation of the Constitution. However, it does not take a Constitutional scholar to understand why the accessability of these:

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    ...makes us look incredibly stupid and reckless.

    Disgusting: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list
     
  8. armophob

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    I tried, I really did
     
  9. James Long

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    Fortunately it take a case for them to discuss and a majority of the then current panel to agree for them to make any difference at all in how things are interpreted.

    It isn't like one of them can wake up and say "it is Tuesday, lets change what the 2nd amendment means".
     
  10. phrelin

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    The title of this post is from a headline at CNN for a story that notes:
    A longer story about it in the Ottawa Citizen notes:
    While it's perversely comfortable to note that our society is not the only one with such "crazies", it appears kids are somewhat safer when guns are not so readily accessible because its harder to kill with a knife or cleaver.:nono2:
     
  11. Hoosier205

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    They can't even agree on what it means. It laughable that others seem so certain.
     
  12. James Long

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    Which means that you are not certain. I have an opinion, but I will not impose it on others.
     
  13. Hoosier205

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    ...ummm...ok. Good for you I guess.
     
  14. MysteryMan

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    I've had accessability to assault rifles all of my adult life and "legally" own a few. A lot of people "legally" purchase and own assault rifles. Many of them are in the Reserves or National Guard who purchased assault rifles so they can maintain their marksmanship skills because their units only get to the range once a year. Before you and the rest of the anti gunners start screaming for more bans, restrictions, and gun laws I suggest you spend some time in countries that ban gun ownership yet proclaim to be a democracy and compare their citizen's freedoms and liberties to ours. :rolleyes:
     
  15. runner861

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    Nobody is going to go spend some time in these other "countries" because it is not necessary. Why don't you stop using the pejorative "anti gunners" and stop trying to insult people who don't agree with you? Why don't you start worrying about the safety of our citizens and kindergarten kids in their classes, rather than your beloved assault weapon? As I recall you earlier said that you wanted to give an "enema" to the criminal justice system, but when questioned you couldn't come up with any part of the criminal justice system that you wanted to change, and seemed to have trouble even identifying the parts of the criminal justice system.
     
  16. MysteryMan

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    Safety of of our citizens? That's what our armed forces and law enforcement agencies are supposed to provide. And who are you to say what is necessary and what isn't? May I remind you that opinions are like rectums, everybody has one! You just expressed your's but find fault with others who express theirs. It's a liberty you take for granted that people living in other "democracies" don't enjoy. :rolleyes:
     
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    More insults, designed to distract. Apparently to the "gunners" (your term) keeping the assault weapon is the only thing that matters. Your understanding of the workings of law enforcement and the criminal justice system are a little thin, at best. You've obviously never worked in the field and never been a victim of a crime.
     
  18. SayWhat?

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    So there's no reason for the crackpots in Idaho, Montana northern Michigan and other places to have militarized compounds is there?

    And now it seems that the mother in all this might have been one of them. She's being classified as a 'prepper' in some articles; stockpiling weapons and ammunition for the collapse of society. Which explains how he got multiple 30 round clips.

    Makes me wonder if 'Prepper' isn't a self-fulfilling prophecy --- if they might not lead to the collapse of civilized society.
     
  19. damondlt

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    Thank you. Finally someone takes this serious!
    I bet many feel the same way. I bet this will happen too in the near future of our schools.
    Problem is I bet many of the NA sayers don't know what its like to lose a child, let alone have children in the first place.

    Sure we all lost loves ones at some point in time, but nothing hurts more then losing a son or daughter. And 20, 6 and 7 year old children hits everyone.

    To sit back and argue that security is ok the way it is , You obviously never stepped foot into a school lately.

    And Why shouldn't it be addressed! Our kids are there.
     
  20. MysteryMan

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    The Hell I havn't. I'm a combat veteran. Three combat tours in Nam, TDY missions I'm still not a liberty to discuss, and Desert Storm. War is the ultimate crime! As for being the victim of a crime my wife and I nearly were. When she was very pregnant with our first child we went to a Sunday matinee to see a movie. Because of her condition she could not move fast. We were one of the last patrons to leave the theater. Our car was parked behind the theater which ment we had to walk around the building to get to our car. There were two muggers on the corner who thought we were easy prey. They positioned themselves in a alley on the side of the building. When we approached the alley they made their move. I pulled out my "legally" purchased, owned, and "legally" carried 45 ACP and pointed it in one of the muggers face. The other mugger fled, breaking the world's record for the fifty yard dash! I asked the mugger if he wanted something. Trembling and quivering he answered no. I strongly suggested he vacate the area which he did. If I wern't "legally" armed the outcome would have been entirely different. You obviously assume what others have experienced which means what you say in your posts are a "little thin, at best". :rolleyes:
     
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