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Miami face eating incident and one of my kids reaction.....

Discussion in 'The OT' started by cj9788, May 30, 2012.

  1. trh

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    That might be, but in FL the use of cell phones on school property during school hours is prohibited. It used to be illegal to even possess the phones, but some students convinced the Legislature to allow students to carry them and only use them in the event of an emergency (e.g. Columbine).

    I think you should let the school administration know that your son saw those pictures at school and you'd appreciate it if they would enforce FL DOE and state laws.
     
  2. jdskycaster

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    An 8 year old watching the walking dead. A shame that you can't pick your parents. I occasionally go to the movies and cringe at all the parents with kids well under 10 sitting in on an R rated movie. Just unbelievable.
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

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    Not going to jump on the parent-bashing train (surprise)... though I admit my first reaction was to think that an 8-year old is probably too young for such shows. However, each kid is different and parents should know what their kid can and cannot handle.

    The problem, of course, in this case... and why you generally don't expose your kids to things too early... is because when it was all make-believe the kid was fine... but when something similar happens in the real world, now all that make-believe is stuck in his head and he is going to worry about it and he is too young to be reasoned with like an older child or adult.

    While you can't protect your child from everything... you owe it to yourself and your kid to try your best not to "stir the pot" essentially.

    That said...

    When I was a young kid, I watched scary stuff and none of it bothered me. I was able to process at a younger-than-usual age that movies and TV shows were made-up stuff that wasn't real.

    What scared me as a kid? Nature shows... like those Disney things or Wild Kingdom... things that often were intended for kids to watch as educational, but showed something like a lion chasing down something and killing it to eat.

    As a young kid, that scared me because I knew it was real... someone was there filming it, and it actually happened. Those shows gave me nightmares as a kid, and most people probably wouldn't think twice about letting their kids watch those programs.

    Arguably in this case too, it is the news story of the real-life attack that has prompted the fears... Exposure to either might have been ok, but exposure to both leaves the child confused because the real-life event is too similar to the fake movie event.

    Heck, as an adult I'm kind of shocked a bit at how real people can be quite twisted and scary... stuff you might think limited to the movies, often has happened more than once.
     
  4. RasputinAXP

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    Morbo says don't knock it til you've tried it.
     
  5. jdskycaster

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    Stewart V.,
    I have to repectfully disagree with you that any child under the age of, let's just arbitrarily pick 12, can process mature content. I think many are disturbed in this case because the walking dead does not have a single episode without showing people being mutilated, murdered (in ways that are particulary gory) and facing a never ending barrage of seemingly hopeless situations.

    A young brain cannot process this information and put it into proper perspective because they have almost zero life experience with which to place these scenes withing a frame of reference. An adult can lecture a child ad nauseum about how it is staged, not real and not going to happen to them but this does not fundamentally change how a young brain processes the information.

    You cannot compare cartoons depicting violence with graphic scenes of mutilated corpses and someone putting an axe through the head of what looks like a real human being. You must have heard the saying "close but not the same."

    JD
     
  6. paulman182

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    Good thing the child never watched movies about cannibals, which is what this is really about.
     
  7. jdskycaster

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    Watch an episode or two of The Walking Dead. Zombies are cannibals!
     
  8. cj9788

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    Everyone bashing me for letting my kids watch the walking dead just does not get it. It is A Sunday night thing, we will all get together on the couch with popcorn and just have fun. During the scary parts my 8 and 10 year olds may cover their eyes or hold me or their mom really tight until the scary stuff is over. With the 12 year old making fun of them on how fake it looks. It is a lot of fun and one of the things we do as a family. NO regrets here when it comes to that. I also want to add that there has NEVER been any nightmares or any other bad effects until the face eating incident.

    Last night was great no crying or even zombie talk I think the difference between reality and fantasy is starting to sink in but I am on top of it. I let his teacher know that some kids have been showing the victims picture around at school and she told me that they are aware of it and that other parents have complained. I think the picture of the guy is what put him over the edge, very horrifying and nothing compared to what you see on tv. I just hope no one else in Miami decides to do 'bath salts' and eat flesh......
     
  9. hilmar2k

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    Might be time for a new family tradition. Our family plays board games, or cards mostly. No flesh eating Sorry players around....
     
  10. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    I see some concerned voices that your tradition is advised against, and a bit of bashing by others.

    I'm with those that think you're off base in continuing having young ones watch such shows at all.
     
  11. djlong

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    Everyone is different.

    My 19-year-old watches Walking Dead. No problems there.

    Some of the stuff *I* saw when I was 9 years old? Well, people would be questioning my aoptive mother's parenting methods if they knew. (To say nothing of how much I was left on my own - I feel like I invented the term "latch-key" kid long before it came into being)
     
  12. sigma1914

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    The OP can allow his kids to watch whatever he wants because it's his kids. Others don't have to like it, but they're his kids. I don't like parents forcing kids to attend church, but it's their kids to raise however they wish.
     
  13. dpeters11

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    I'm glad I don't have kids...we can watch True Blood whenever we want to. Of course these days, there are even warnings on Looney Tunes discs.
     
  14. hilmar2k

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    I don't disagree, but the OP asked for opinions, and well....he got them.
     
  15. WestDC

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    The "new" Drugs hitting Miami now will be working there way north and west very soon. Watch for more Stranger than fiction truth near you soon.
     
  16. sigma1914

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    You're right. I also wanted to add, at least he can't blame anyone but himself for the kid being affected.
     
  17. cj9788

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    Also asked for tips but people are more quick to judge. Maybe one or two responses as to any advice on how to proceed. The incident broke on Sunday morning went viral Sunday night. My son was ok til he saw the picture at school it was too real for him and the fact that the attack happened at a place he was familiar with did not help.

    The situation as I stated earlier seems to be waning, I am grateful for that. I must admit though I wonder how the other parents of the kids who are not exposed to shows like walking dead are dealing with this. The photos have been spread around the playground at school, my kids already had a dip in the water when it comes to gore, I can only imagine the sheltered child's reaction to such a horrific act and graphic photo.

    I could have esaily left out the fact that my kids watch shows like the walking dead but i chose to include that, my fault was presuming people would offer advice rather than just criticism alone.
     
  18. smiddy

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    I read through this thread and got the same impression. You asked for help, and then got a lot of judgements thrown at you. Sorry to see that...

    Parenting, especially when it is something like this, will take a lot of work on your part and those around you to comfort your child. I like that you're being up front with your approach BTW, and I think you have to explain the situation, many times a day. It also helps to have a trusted friend or relative to be able to reinforce what you're trying to get across.

    I hate to see a child, I have an 8 year old too, have to go through pains like this. That story is so whacked out...and I can see how the linkage is there. It will take time, and patience, but you will get through it. Provide the TLC you seem to want to do and you will get through it.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    Not sure how you are disagreeing with me. I'm not going to bash the thread starter here, he has more important issues to deal with than that... I don't think I would let a child of mine (if I had any) watch that kind of show at that age myself... and for the reasons I stated about how you can't explain things to them IF they have a problem.

    It doesn't help either that parents spend a lot of time convincing their young kids that there is a Santa Claus who watches you all the time to see if you are being good or bad, and then he comes into your house late at night when you are asleep to judge you or give you gifts. That always seemed like a bad idea to me too... but then many parents who would take this guy to task over zombies would have zero issues talking about the home-invader Santa would they?

    Umm... who said anything about cartoons? I very clearly was talking about those nature shows where they show REAL animals actually eating other REAL animals. I said nothing about cartoon violence.

    Are you saying mutilated animal corpses are ok for kids?
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Yet the advice given you, of ceasing to allow such viewing by young children, seems to be what rankles you most. That is valuable advice, and you're ungrateful for it, and will not be likely to heed it. I could be wrong.

    I may have missed some posts encouraging this practice.
     

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