MLB EI 2019

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by dtv757, Dec 29, 2018.

  1. evotz

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    This is part of what is wrong with MLB these days. A lot of times it's easier to be an out-of-market fan for your team than it is to be in-market.

    I'm an out-of-market Cubs fan. I don't really care what happens with the Marquee Network, because I'll always get the Cubs games either on Extra Innings or MLB.tv. But if you are in market, and your television provider doesn't carry the Marquee Network... you're going to be SOL.

    I'm in market for Cincinnati and St. Louis. Yet, I don't get the St. Louis games. Some of the St. Louis games are carried on Fox Sports South here. But if I buy the Sports Pack - that allows me the privilege to unlock all of the RSNs I'm suppose to be getting... including Foxsports Midwest (St. Louis). (This means that when the Cubs play the Cardinals, I don't get those games unless they are on Fox Sports South that day)

    I suppose if I were a Cardinals fan, paying $13/mo for the Sports Pack is cheaper than paying for Extra Innings. But the next carriage dispute where DirecTV shuts off Foxsports Midwest - I'd be out of the game. This is essentially what has happened with Dodgers fans in the LA market. And would potentially happen with Cubs fans in the Chicago market.

    MLB has stuck their head in the ground on this for years. They wonder why MLB viewership is not growing - and Manfred wants to blame it on lengthy games. MLB needs to take a hard look at markets and what teams hold those markets. Offer an in-market streaming option that isn't tied to TV or something.
     
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  2. trh

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    I think the picture that TheRatPatrol posted in #208 is more current.

    But I do think MLB EI is different between the providers. My neighbor was watching the Cubs feed on the EI channel on opening day via his Comcast MLB EI but the posts above indicate that it wasn't available on DIRECTV.
     
  3. KyL416

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    It is. Digital cable providers use iNDemand's 14 GAME channels which are shared with Center Ice. DirecTV and Dish use a combo of RSN remaps and, when the bandwidth is available, part time feeds for channels that aren't carried.

    Since it seems we go through this every year....DirecTV's part time bandwdith for HD is made up of the CINEHD channels, and for SD standby feeds. Part time feeds for regular subscribers like part time RSNs and Plus/Overflow channels, along with other things like the March Madness bracket channel, ESPN College Extra and Tennis/Golf tournaments get priority over the feeds of non carried channels for out of market packages. Yes DirecTV carries WGN/WLS (Cubs), WCAU (Phillies) and WPIX (Mets/Yankees) as LIL channels, but those are on spotbeams, so the same rule applies since their EI feeds also use the shared part time bandwidth.

    On Thursday, all the part time bandwidth was in use at some point that day.
     
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  4. dtv757

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    Also some digital cable providers only have limited HD channels for MLB EI/NHL CI . Example optimum only had a total of 9 HD channels due to limited capacity.



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  5. dtv757

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    I know there's certain teams where the feeds are not available but we should be thankful we get both feeds (home and away) for most games . As I wrote above on cable they still have games in SD and its 2019

    Not to mention all the games we get in 4k and MLB EI or NBA LP Te not needed for 4k games yet

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  6. schmave1

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    Dtv757, your post summarizes the reasons I'd never get EI on cable. EI through DirecTV is such a great value when you think about it. HD feeds for every game, the vast majority of the time including both feeds (which would never happen with the cable version). It's such a great value for baseball fans, especially with MLB.TV included. Not having a few feeds early in the year and on those NFL Sundays late in the season is a small price to pay, so to speak, for everything else we get.
     
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  7. Rob37

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    What needs to happen is Blackouts need to be limited to about 75 Miles the way the NFL Used to determine a Blackout & here is my argument for this. You just described that you are a Cubs fan but live in a St. Louis Cardinals Market. Chances are if you live within 75 miles of a teams stadium, your local RSN or a local station carries that team anyway. I am in Mississippi myself (Northern Part) & The Cardinals Claim My area as (local) but HELL. The Cardinals are atleast 250 miles North from where I live. That is too far away to claim as (local) the Blackouts were meant for back in the days of Rabbit Ear ERA of Television Viewing. Another team who claims my area like your area is the Reds. Cincinnati is even much farther away from here than St. Louis. Probably 350 miles. That is too far away to claim as local. The Blackout Boundaries need to be revised and greatly reduced, instead they have actually expanded them and made it harder for fans to watch baseball. Or even better yet, The Comissioner could just abolish MLB Blackouts all together and allow us to watch any feed. The Rules are so outdated more like for the 1960’s & 1970’s than the 20xx’s.
     
  8. Apr 1, 2019 #228 of 347
    Grafixguy

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    While an RSN may carry them, your TV provider may not. The LA and Philly markets are a prime example.
     
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    I've haven't had a chance to give a thorough write-up regarding my full blown switch to Comcast (TV, Landline to join my existing internet and recently switched from AT&T mobile to Xfinity mobile) a week ago which I really want to do and will.

    Anyway, Comcast has all teams in full HD with their Beta program. They have team specific "apps" you click on once you go into their EI channel.
     
  10. Apr 2, 2019 #230 of 347
    schmave1

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    Reynoldsburg...
    I suggested a few years ago that blackouts ought to be limited to the home DMA of the given team. Another poster took that to mean that teams could only claim such a small area as their territory, which was not what I said or meant, as I do not think the blackout radius necessarily has to be synonymous with territory.
    Territories need revised for sure. First, every team should have to demonstrate that their television outlet(s) cover/are widely available in every single DMA they claim. If they don't, that market gets dropped from a team's territory. That in itself would pare off some distant markets for some teams (i.e. the Orioles and Nationals would probably have to drop North Carolina, finally; the Pirates would have to drop Columbus, although DirecTV has finally lifted its idiotic self-imposed blackout and we're getting games on 659 for the first time since the 2012 season).
    My suggestion of limiting MLB.TV/EI blackouts to home DMAs simply comes from the fact that once you get beyond the primary market, many more variables come into play when it comes to carriage. WGN and WLS Cubs games not being carried in Fort Wayne or parts of Iowa are just one example. Obviously only people who have paid for those packages would benefit from seeing an opposing feed in a team's home territory (such as me in Columbus, where I'd get opponent's feeds for Reds, Pirates and Indians games). MLB still gets its $, and the local TV partners still get theirs.
     
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    JoeTheDragon

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    WGN will have no more games after this year. Still have an few issues on cable with team in outer rings not having all RSN feeds / maybe missing an few games / being hidden on some random channel.

    Now what will happen with NBCSN CHI having 3 teams + other needs but only HD 2 feeds on local cable (MAIN DMA ZONE) / as few as 1 in outer zones?

    Will Comcast add +2 HD on the local systems or just let Directv / att run a way with having more HD feeds of there own in market RSN?
     
  12. Apr 2, 2019 #232 of 347
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    No team should be able to claim (home territory) that is more than 2 states away. It is absurd. Team Territories need reduced.
     
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    KyL416

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    So people who previously got those teams in market should be forced to get Extra Innings across the board if they want to see ANY MLB beyond what ESPN, Fox and TBS air nationally to appease a tiny minority of hardcore Extra Innings subscribers affected by the lack of carriage of one of their in market RSNs for the few times their favorite team is playing that team? That would just alienate the regular fans who don't want to or can't afford to pay $45 a month or ~$180 a year for EI, many of it in areas where decent broadband to handle MLB.tv isn't available, and in some cases served by cable providers who don't offer any out of market sports packages. Not to mention these RSN team rights contracts are fixed, so it will just drive the rate up for viewers in the home DMAs to recover the costs from the lost areas, who were already paying the higher inner ring rates for the channel.

    Also, for Extra Innings, the RSNs don't get any subscriber money for their feeds, so with Extra Innings all the money is split between your cable provider and MLB, compared to in market RSN carriage where the money is split mostly between the RSN and the teams the channel airs with your cable provider getting a tiny percentage, which will just makes the rates go up even higher for home DMA viewers. Along with the lost ad revenue that will need to be recovered since iNDemand now uses the production truck feeds instead of the RSN feeds. (Sports are usually guaranteed live vieiwing, so advertisers are willing to pay a lot more for spots during live games.)

    So you think cable and sat providers would still make carriage deals for those RSNs in areas that are in territory but no longer subject to blackout out of the kindness of their hearts? You know they will just take that opportunity to make even more money by refusing carriage of those RSNs and pocketing the cut they get for each additional Extra Innings subscription from people wanting to get the games they previously got on RSNs. (Also, Fort Wayne does have a local OTA affiliate listed for the WGN/WLS games)

    In a perfect world every cable and sat provider would carry the RSNs that serve their area and this wouldn't be an issue. But now you got companies dangling rediculous bids with the promise of team specific channels that don't yet exist or have any carriage deals, like Sinclair with the future Cubs channel and the former Time Warner Cable. TWC failed so bad the execs responsible left with golden parachutes and made it Charter's problem, and because of how the deal was written, Charter can't do anything to save it like merge it with the Lakers channel, so they're stuck until TWC's deal expires and they can either negotiate better terms that lets them merge or pull the plug on the channel entirely and let whoever ends up with Fox Sports West/Prime Ticket get the rights back.
     
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    Sandra

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    Ok so we've had the MLB at bat app tied to our Directv MLBEI account for a few years now. Works beautifully.

    This is the first season we have a Roku, we've tried to tie that to our MLBEI account as well but have been unsuccessful so far. We read that you need a mlbei premium account to watch MLB.tv on Roku. Is that our problem?

    We've had no trouble watching NBA league pass and NHL center ice on the Roku. Thanks in advance.


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    chino

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    This year they have not Broadcast any Phillies and blue jays affiliates broadcast they usually have them
     
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    KyL416

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    MLB, NHL, NBA and MLS are all active this week requiring the RSN plus channels on most nights, along with the masters and ESPN College Extra this weekend, which all get priority over bonus dual feeds. Last night it was so busy all the designated part time CINEHD channels were in use and they even had to dip into the infomercial channels for the SD feeds. They should be available again after the NHL and NBA regular seasons end.
     
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    Grafixguy

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    I've activated MLB on three Roku devices/TVs by simply logging into my MLB account. You only need to link it to your DTV account once but I think you have to do it online.
     
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    I'll second that, no problem linking my EI account with .tv on my Roku Ultra.
     
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    Rob37

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    As soon as the NBA & NHL Regular Seasons end is usually when they will start having the Phillies & Blue Jays Feeds.
     
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    Sandra

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    Thanks.

    I tried logging into MLB.tv on the Roku Ultra with my DirecTV log in and password but it didn't recognize that. How would I get a MLB.tv log in and password? How do you link it?


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