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MLB Extra Innings

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kenpac89, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. davidatl14

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    Yes I understand it's a different animal, apples to oranges.

    While not singling out the Rays as I would hope to see a mandate enforced across the board. No games permitted to start in 1:10P-7:05P blackout window. If it takes writing that into the next TV contract then MLB should see that it's done in that matter.


    Not trying to change your mind nor endlessly debate, Just my opinion.:)
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Don't care for endless debate either because I barely care. A few games a year in a 162 game season is not a big deal. And if it helps Tampa Bay pay the bills without putting a big burden on their customers, I'm fine with it.
     
  3. trainman

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    Back when they were in Baltimore, the Colts had to have a different start time for Sunday games than the rest of the league due to Maryland blue laws -- I think 2:00 Eastern. The games were on TV: in a "singleheader" week, the coverage would be from 2:00 to conclusion; in a "doubleheader" week, affiliates getting the Colts game would see the first hour of one game, then the Colts game in its entirety, then the last two hours (more or less) of a third game.

    (Those blue laws aren't in effect anymore, so they don't affect the Ravens.)
     
  4. Avder

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    Because Fox paid enough money to get the MLB to allow them to shove whatever game they want down your throat on saturday.

    People are annoyed by it, which is probably part of whats behind the alleviation of black out restrictions this season. Its only a matter of time before all of Fox's alternate games show up on EI regardless of if Fox wants them to or not.

    And EVENTUALLY, I hope they'll allow you to watch your local team on the opposing feed if your local team has elected to not broadcast a game.
     
  5. JoeTheDragon

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    Do they show on MLB EI canada?
     
  6. blackhawkzone

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    yes, if somebody is televising it locally(and not on mlb us)
     
  7. DCSholtis

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    First time I've seen a Rangers OTA HD feed. Good job tonight D*! Its on 675-1 if no one has found it yet. In the clear in Ohio.
     
  8. May 1, 2010 #348 of 484
    BigRedFan

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    Does anyone know why this channel is blacked out (I guess outside of the New York DMA) ? ...I live in Florida, subscribe to MLB Extra Innings and Sports Pack, plus HD Access..... I was trying to watch the channel this afternoon during the Yankees-White Sox game and I keep getting "This program is not available in your area (727)"......

    If I'm paying for MLB Extra Innings and the Sports Pack (and YES is in the clear for the actual game) why wouldn't this channel be opened up ?....

    If it's only available in NYC, then isn't DTV wasting major HD bandwidth by putting this channel on a CONUS transponder and not on a spotbeam for the NYC metro area ?

    What's the point of even listing the channel on the Guide (outside of NYC) ? Shouldn't it be treated, then, like a NYC local station which does not get listed outside of the local market ? Seems very misleading to have it in the Guide otherwise.....
     
  9. May 1, 2010 #349 of 484
    tonyd79

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    It is not available outside of the YES footprint. For anyone. (Well, maybe a Titanium customer if they exist but even then, blackouts apply.)

    It is probably on CONUS rather than on spotbeam because the YES footprint covers multiple spotbeam areas and CONUS is probably less of a waste of bandwidth than repeating the channel over and over again.
     
  10. May 1, 2010 #350 of 484
    BigRedFan

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    But, if I get YES through Sports Pack and MLB Extra Innings, then why wouldn't I also be able to get the YES Bonus Cam Channel, just like other RSN's with "sister" channels, ie. NESN +, MASN 2, etc. ?.....

    Isn't the "YES footprint" which allows me to see the main YES channel the same footprint carrying Bonus Cam ? If it's listed in blue on my Guide I'm assuming it's on CONUS....If not, why would they break up the distribution of the 2 YES channels to MLB-EI subscribers ?

    And why would YES or MLB care to black out the Bonus Cam channel to EI paying customers already watching the game connected to the Bonus Cam ?
     
  11. May 1, 2010 #351 of 484
    Jimmy 440

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    The Bonus Cam is not part of EI.
     
  12. May 1, 2010 #352 of 484
    Ice Runner

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    Too bad that for 6 p.m. Saturday night games, EI can't join the game in progress at 7 p.m. All in all, though, the Saturday hassles are a lot better than previous years!
     
  13. May 1, 2010 #353 of 484
    BigRedFan

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    Yes, I know Bonus Cam is not part of EI.... Bonus Cam is an ancillary channel to YES and as such it is hard to understand what possible "theory" there could be for blacking out this channel to customers paying for all the programming shown on YES (I have NBA League Pass, MLB-EI, Sports Pack, HD Access)....

    Otherwise, why is it listed in the Guide as a CONUS open channel which, in theory, customers should be able to access through some available subscription ?.....

    If Bonus Cam is a "local" channel for the NYC DMA, then it's no different than, for example, WWOR or WPIX, and as such, it should be excluded from the Guide, just like the Guide does not list WWOR or WPIX or any other NYC local stations (except the DNS which can be purchased outside of NYC) .....

    To keep it listed as "available" to everyone outside of NYC, even though no one outside of NYC can get it, even if they wanted to pay for it, is misleading.
     
  14. May 1, 2010 #354 of 484
    tonyd79

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    It is not the game coverage so it is outside MLB EI. The fact that it is shown as a channel you get in the guide is in error.

    What I meant by the YES footprint is those who get YES without paying extra for it. Where YES is local.

    BTW, this is not the first or only channel handled like that. SportSouth used to be only available in the south (it is now available everywhere) but it was on CONUS. HDNET has an extra channel for Dallas Maverick games that is not available outside the Mavericks territory (Mark Cuban owns both HDNet and the Mavs) yet it is on CONUS.

    The bonus cam is just that. You get the game. The bonus cam is extra coverage of the game and not included. When a game is on the YES alternate (633/633-1) you would get it. That is what NESN+ and the other alternates are like. YES Cam is a different critter.
     
  15. May 2, 2010 #355 of 484
    BigRedFan

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    Thanks tonyd for the explanation.... I wasn't aware of the blacked-out CONUS channels examples you mentioned...

    Given that Bonus Cam HD is on CONUS, would you know why the Yankees don't want to show this extra game coverage outside of NYC (since DTV is giving them the bandwidth and they're basically turning it down) ?.... You'd think it'd be a plus for them....I don't see where the downside is; I mean, we're still paying for the Yankees game that the Cam is "attached" to.....
     
  16. May 2, 2010 #356 of 484
    bwaldron

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    I would guess that YES wants $$ from DirecTV to offer it outside its DMA, which DirecTV has chosen not to pay. (Though given it is MLB we are talking about, anything is possible.)
     
  17. May 2, 2010 #357 of 484
    Avder

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    This is amazing. Today DirecTV actually has the High-Def feed from WFTC on EI!

    I'm giddy with joy!
     
  18. May 2, 2010 #358 of 484
    beachmonkey

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    i almost got to the point where i didnt want to watch the Sunday games with low-def.. how spoiled are we :nono2:

    but nonetheless ... :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:
     
  19. May 2, 2010 #359 of 484
    tonyd79

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    I'm more thinking it is not covered by the MLB EI contract so they cannot provide it. YES winds up blacking out other shows that they do not have national rights to provide.
     
  20. May 2, 2010 #360 of 484
    GlennDio

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    Ok one month into the season and I have to say extra innings is nearly perfect this season .. I couldn't be happier with the product ... well the few remaining issues are as follows:

    WGN HD games (this gets fixed in May)

    Peachtree HD games (not sure I understand why this is still an issue they have signal for part of the country I would think it would be fairly easy to fix -- maybe with the extra bandwidth from D12?)

    Cardinals OTA games (always missing sunday)

    Fox regional feeds (if we had Fox sports Espanol in HD that would help with one extra game many weeks -- I have to listen to Audio in English from Online but still with an HD feed I don't think I would mind that much)

    Fox saturday blackouts ( I think my Rays are really the only problem with this and their 6:10 starts)

    All the Phils , Pads, and Jays games in HD they even have the HD on Twins OTA games figured out now starting today ... Plus Mets OTA etc.etc.etc.

    Plus big kudos to MLB for having such a high percentage of their games being broadcast in HD ... virtually 100% across the board... I wonder if Gary Bettman is a Baseball fan?
     

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