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Discussion in 'The OT' started by Richard King, Oct 30, 2008.
Global warming is all about averages though, and actually can cause some areas to be colder than ever before because of changes in weather patterns on a global scale.
Sadly, most do not understand that and I hate how the media has taken on global warming lately...there is so much more to it than what Al or the Media is shoving down everyone's throats.
You mean that we can’t trust our politicians and the media to give us the complete truth? :lol:
Only reason I had to jump in on this topic is I am writing a few papers on it as we speak :lol:
Snow blankets London for Global Warming debate
Woke up yesterday morning to a light dusting of snow, I guess the global warming took a hiatus for the winter.
You can't help but love the irony in that one! :hurah:
BTW, John Coleman, who founded The Weather Channel, not too long ago did a big study of what he believed was the sole reason our planet had experienced any increase in global temperature. Can you guess what that was? Yup, the sun! He had a graph that showed specific figures that covered several decades of the planet's mean temperature. Over the last 150 years or so, every single time the planet experienced a rise in its temps, or a rise in ocean temps, or melting of the ice caps, etc., the sun's solar radiation increased. Sunspots were also more prevalent. It's a known fact that when sunspots are present in greater numbers, solar radiation increases and the heat produced by El Sol increases as well. The end result is that Earth receives more energy from the sun, thereby increasing global temperatures, among other things.
Interestingly, the last 2 years have seen a marked decrease in sunspot activity. The sun has grown the quietest it has been in many years, and not coincidentally, the last two winters in most of the U.S., particularly the Midwest and northeast, have been the worst in many years. Indeed, we never had a spring, with the snow still falling in Chicagoland through the 3rd weekend of May this year.
There was a report in September that stated that the previous 2 months had passes without any sunspot activity. And now we have the coolest October in the southeast in over 30 years. hmmmm.
I foresee this thread going/ending like the last.
Mild/cold in some places and loss of the ice sheets/caps in other places, hummm
Wonder who really does know?
I guess you can pick anywhere to support your politics/opinion, etc.
I don't think we're trying to get too political here; rather, we're discussing a major issue that seems to be based more on fear than facts. Besides, talking about sunspots is fun.
The questions I always ask in regards to any action on global warming:
Are you certain that we are at the optimal climate globally now, and what about all the other global climate changes? Were those only bad as well?
Is it just possible that the CO2 generated by all those international
conferences on climate change is contributing to global warming? :shrug:
Actually, all agree that CO2 levels have increased significantly. Question is what it means.
Some see Venus and its CO2 atmosphere, and see global warming. Some don't.
Either way, it's good for us all to reduce CO2, because it's a pollutant - unless you're a plant, of course.
The Sunspots are back guys!
I'm certainly glad you clarified this:
While you guys up north are enjoying cool and rainy weather, we are roasting down here in South Texas. We've broken all kinds of heat records this Summer.
Weather here in the Carolinas has been averaging about 5 degrees lower than normal. This weekend will be more like early May or mid September.
Expected highs Sat-Tue 82-85 with low humidity. Average high 90-92 with dewpoints about 65-70.
If this is global warming, then bring it..
Who said we're enjoying this, Chris? It sucks! We got robbed of a spring, robbed of a Memorial Day (cold and cloudy), robbed of an Independence Day (cold and rainy), robbed of a summer thus far.
Global Warming? From Weather God Tom Skilling comes this info...
Coldest July (thus far) in 40 years
Coldest July opening (first couple days of July) in 80 years
Cloudiest June in 40 years (4th cloudiest June ever)
Coldest June in 30 years
Coldest May in 30 years
NO 90* days yet officially in Chicago this July (a few in the burbs)
Coldest May in 60 years
Year to date the coldest in over 40 years
Year to date among the 5 cloudiest ever
June was the 7th month in a row of below normal temps
Winter was loooooooong--it snowed in May!
May was among the cloudiest Mays on record
This easily has been one of the worst summers I can remember for heat lovers. After freezing my ass off on the ball field during my spring college games, I'd actually welcome roasting it off during my summer college games, but I did that only during one hot & humid week in mid-June. Since then we've had days where the highs were only in the 60s! In July!
Now my brother in NW suburban Houston? Different story.
Have no fear, though: El Nino is officially here! This means a colder and wetter than normal for the southern perimeter of the country, Texas included, but a warmer and drier than normal winter for the Midwest and northeast--finally!
"Global Warming"??? No frickin' way! This winter, spring, AND summer totally disprove this BS notion of "Global Warming." Period.
I agree. Heaven forbid if anyone should mention that the Earth has cycles of heat and cool over a period of years. Oh and forget about the sun. Man has much more affect on our climate than the sun. (cough cough).