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More MLB Blackout lunacy

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by swyman18, Sep 6, 2011.

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  1. SamC

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    Hawaii is claimed by every California team, and Alaska by the Marriners.
     
  2. Avder

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    Last year every Twins game played on sunday was broadcast on WFTC in the Twin Cities. Not being in the Twin Cities, I couldn't get those games. Most of them (all but two I think) were placed on an alternate channel somewhere around 660 for Twins viewers who couldn't get WFTC.
     
  3. adkinsjm

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    That was a deal the Twins made with FSN and WFTC.
     
  4. yankeevert

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    I sill can't understand the logic of the "no rerun" rule. I can tape the live broadcast but I can't watch a rerun????? So if I forget to tape it I'm SOL
     
  5. cariera

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    Not really that mind-boggling, you are in the Dodger's market, thus all games broadcast on FSW or PT you get (with or without MLBEI). Since you are in the Dodger's market all RSN and MLBEI channels broadcasting their opponents feeds are blacked out to you. Games not carried on the RSNs (like the aftermentioned game on KCAL) are not necessarily available on MLBEI, so you would have to tune to a local channel, which in this case would be a Hawaiian station, thus no game.

    Just because you are in the Dodger's market it does not mean that you get every Dodger game, or should it mean that additional channels be opened up to you to get all Dodger games. That's the way it works.:)
     
  6. MikeW

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    Fortunately, the blackouts on MLB EI and MLB.TV for the Pads in Tucson were lifted a couple of years back.
     
  7. MikeW

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    The mind-boggling part is that Hawaii has an "in-market" team.
     
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    Yup, try being a Lakers fan in San Diego. When the games are on KCAL, we don't get it.
     
  9. tonyd79

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    I've seen a few KCAL games on NBA TV. Do they black them out for you?
     
  10. habsfan66

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    I'm a Dish customer in the Red Sox area and I'm trying to understand why the Phil - Milwaukee game is blacked out here tonight on MLB? Anybody have a clue?
     
  11. cmasia

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    Are you getting Cleveland v Chicago on the MLBN alt. channel?

    MLBN is showing 2 games, and they never say which neutral markets will get which game.

    I'm guessing Dish offers the alt. channel by the way.
     
  12. sigma1914

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    Dish doesn't offer the alternate feed.
     
  13. habsfan66

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    Haven't found the alt. channel if it's there (rumor has it we don't yet anyway), just couldn't see why this game wouldn't be on.
     
  14. cmasia

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    So, if his market is getting MLBN's alternate game, he gets nothing?

    Please, this is not a bash Dish post, but I didn't know that.
     
  15. sigma1914

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    Unfortunately, that's correct.
     
  16. habsfan66

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    Looks that way for now anyway. Since MLB is new for Dish, maybe we'll have the alt. channel for next year. Just didn't see why Philly-Milwaukee would need to be blacked out in Red Sox territory.
     
  17. cmasia

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    It wasn't really "blacked out".

    Apparently, MLBN chose to send the Indians v White Sox game to your market.

    Even though D* has both the MLBN and MLBN alt. channel, we only get one game, not both.
     
  18. habsfan66

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    You'd think that MLBN would have had Dish add both channels, not worth much if the only one they have has no game available.
     
  19. MikeP

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    KITV 4-2 is carrying the Giants feed of the game tomorrow vs. Dodgers at 4pm Hawaii time. I heard KITV picked up a handful of games this season and are part of the Giants OTA TV network.
     
  20. swyman18

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    But I think that is where there is the whole disconnect between the MLB blackout rules and local TV markets, isn't it? I thought if a team claims a particular area, then they black out the other team's feed because they assume either:

    A) You have the ability to physically go to the game
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    B) You have the ability to view the game on a local station (OTA or an RSN)

    So of both A and B are false, then somethings got to give to allow a viewer to see that game if they subscribe to EI. The question becomes am I "in market" or "out of market"? Which market, TV or MLB? That is where the messiness comes in.

    It's really not a big deal for me, I'm not even a Dodger's fan. I'm actually a Red Sox fan and I've never run into an issue here in Hawaii. I had just wanted to see that one Dodger's game and I found it interesting.
     

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