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Most Cost Effective Way for 7 TVs and DirecTV?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by bobneedshelp, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    I think right now what you're talking about is extremely hypothetical. Those who may or may not know how HR34 is going to work are not about to say anything in the open.
     
  2. hpierce

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    This is correct, your first IRD does not have a mirroring charge hence for 6 IRD's you only pay the mirroring for 5. (You will find a credit for 1 IRD on the bill)
     
  3. Shades228

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    The max live will be how many tuners it has in it. I can see them keeping the first tuner built into the programming package. Then you "activate" tuners and they charge per each one you want active up to the max. As far as your distrobution that's not what I'm talking about as this is just billing. There will be a max amount of tuners in the box and that will be the max amount that can be charged per HR 34.

    Now back to the OP:

    You need to decide how many of the TV's can share a connection so they would have the same programming on multiple TV's. Once you have that figured out you will need to look into what technology will work for your home. You have already said that running cable is not an option you want to persue so that means wireless or an ethernet solution if you have ethernet in those rooms. Then see what the cost is vs what the cost would be vs the price of the receivers and the programming per month. Eventually DIRECTV will become more expensive based on how far you go into the future but overall if you're looking at less than 4 years I can't see it being cheaper. Then you have to hope that technology doesn't change where they lock down their programming more, which is happening, thus negating the other stuff you bought to do this.

    Chances are you'll find that a mix of more box's plus some splitters will be your best bet. Running HDMI between rooms that share a wall or are close to each other probably won't be that dificult if you go through the attick, crawlspace, or basement.
     
  4. bobneedshelp

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    I am in the scenario where I really only need 3 receivers with independent tuners across all 7 TVs. In other words, I want to be able to watch 3 different DirecTV channels at a single time across 7 TVs. What are options for this? None of my TV locations are remotely close to each other so if I need a sharing option, it would need to be wireless.
     
  5. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Not aware of any good wireless option to send HD to another room/area. It sounds like your options are to either put a receiver at each location, or pull some wire. Easiest wire pull would probably be cat5e or cat6 and use some conversion baluns at each end.
     
  6. bobneedshelp

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    I do have COAX in each room if there is a switched option for that.
     
  7. harsh

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    As of today, the only economical DIRECTV HD option for a single coax would seem to be some combination of DIRECTV Plus HD DVRs and Plus HD receivers.

    Greatest flexibility would demand six Plus HD DVRs and one Plus HD receiver. The worst case scenario is where three Plus HD DVR equipped TV want to watch recorded content from other Plus HD DVRs tying up three pairs of Plus HD DVRs. Even then, you would not have access to content that was already being watched by someone else without multiple recordings.

    Circumstances/discipline could offer relief from having so many DVRs.
     
  8. bobneedshelp

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    So if I have to run another wire, what kind of setup would I need?
     
  9. The Merg

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    What in the world are you talking about?

    If you have 3 DVRs and use those to watch recordings off of 3 other DVRs, only those other 3 DVRs are tied up. The DVRs being used to watch the recordings can still serve up recordings to other receivers, the DVRs currently serving up recordings can still be used to watch recordings from the 3 remote DVRs, and you can watch a recording someone else is watching if you watch it locally if they are watching it remotely and vice versa.

    - Merg
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    So exactly how is "tying up" the 3 HD DVRs that you are using as a client any different than if those DVRs where HD Receivers. The person that was actually watching TV would be "tying up" those as well. What you're saying doesn't even make sense.

    Besides, non-DVRs cans till view Live TV. There are many people that are still happy with that.

    More to the point of your post ..

    If A, B and C DVRs are being used to view content from D, E, and F DVRs, then any combination of D, E and F DVRs and G Receiver could be used to watch content from A, B and C DVRs. Additionally each DVR could view local content or Live TV and the standalone receiver could watch Live TV.

    The other units are far from "tied up" .. Again, you concentrate on the edge condition as if it were the norm. There is no reason to make a mountain out of a molehill.
     
  11. Beerstalker

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    It's not exactly practical, but the easiest thing to do would be just to have each of the rooms wired up for DirecTV, and just move a receiver/DVR to that room whenever you want to use it.

    Otherwise if you are ok with standard def content then you could use RF modulators hooked up to the DirecTV receivers outputs and use the coax cable in your home to distribute the signal to other rooms.

    Once the HR34 info is released we may have a better idea on how it would work for you. Like I siad before, I "hope" it will work like I was talking about, but I definitely don't know for sure and I have been wrong in the past.
     
  12. Doug Brott

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    I really do not know what the plans are for HR34 with respect to charges. We know that there are 5 tuners .. My guess is that there will either be a premium on the box or more likely there will be a charge for each additional tuner (after the first two) .. similar to a mirror fee, but specific to the HR34 and it's multiple tuners. I expect any and all clients will be fee free, but that there will be a charge to lease (or purchase outright) the clients. Hopefully we'll have more information on pricing by the end of the year. I'm not really sure when the HR34 is going to be available to the public, but I don't think it's that far off at this point.
     
  13. cover

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    I pulled component cables to seven different rooms and used component video matrix switches and video distribution amps to provide HD to any of 7 TVs from any of 3 DVRs. It is possible and it works reasonably well. I used it for years.

    Would I do it again? NO WAY! It was a pain to pull the wire and get it set up initially and it was a pain to keep everything connected and working properly. I did all that before MRV was available. Now that MRV is an option, even though it costs more, I'd never go back. I have a DVR in each room, 7 in total. Overkill for most people, but it works well and is worth every penny. Plus, I never have to worry about running out of tuners or series links :).
     
  14. carl6

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    What he said. :)
     
  15. Beerstalker

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    Yep, pretty much what I'm thinking too. You'll either be able to buy thin clients from DirecTV for something like $50, or lease them for $2-3/month is my guess.

    I really am looking forward to it. Have I mentioned before that my parents would be great Beta testers for this :D Hint, Hint :D
     
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    Taking a quick look at those two links, I stand by my statement. The specs give a usable range of 10 meters, and the one user review has the distance at ten feet and has less than great results. May work for some in some situations. For the cost of one of these, you can have an additional receiver/DVR for over two years before you break even.
     
  18. harsh

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    The diligent reader will surely recognize the preface of "worst case scenario".
     
  19. Doug Brott

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    Except that is all you talk about .. the worst case scenario. It's important for most people to realize that in this case the "worst case scenario" is so far from unlikely to happen ever that it really shouldn't even be considered. I'd venture that maybe a dozen at most of DIRECTV's entire customer base will ever run into this "problem" because just at the outset, it takes a lot of people using the same DIRECTV system at the same time and NOT watching something on the local DVR. It's a pigeon hole scenario that is contrived.
     

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