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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Jun 6, 2012 #41 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    huh? You really haven't followed the Pac 12 Network concept have you? It's MORE than just football. It's all of athletic events at the schools:

    From wikipedia, which sums it up well:

    "Upon launch, the networks will feature 24-hour a day, 7-day a week coverage of classic-to-current Pac-12 sports, including olympic sports. In addition, the networks plan to produce roughly 850 events a year (350 events on Pac-12's national network and 500 events on Pac-12 regional networks),[2] including 35 football games, 100 men's basketball games, 40 women's basketball games, all spring football games, coaches shows, and news conferences will be featured nationally on the main Pac-12 network. The networks are expected to be launched in HD."
  2. Jun 6, 2012 #42 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    Good, when some wealthy, well placed Trojan alums seek out the top brass at Directv because their USC team is the game of the week and they can't see it on TV that will be good. All the help we can get is what we need.
  3. Jun 6, 2012 #43 of 1671

    mreposter Hall Of Fame

    Jul 29, 2006
    By your own description that's still only 2-3 live events a day and a bunch of old reruns of old sporting events. Spread that out over 7 networks and it's mighty thin.

    Would you be just as enthusiastic if D* planned to launch 7 versions of the Cooking Channel with similar amounts of new programming?
  4. Jun 6, 2012 #44 of 1671

    palmgrower AllStar

    Jul 18, 2011
    Would be great if they showed Pac12 Volleyball, so many of the top talent from Florida end up out west for their college careers
  5. Jun 6, 2012 #45 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    and how many true live sporting events take place on ESPN on Tuesdays and Wednesdays?

    Like any other sports channel you will see the bulk of any content on the weekends and Thursdays and Fridays.
  6. Jun 7, 2012 #46 of 1671

    adkinsjm Icon

    Mar 25, 2003
    Most of the programming besides football, and maybe basketball, will be lucky to get 5,000 viewers. It's the same with The Longhorn Network, because who really watches college softball or soccer?
  7. Jun 7, 2012 #47 of 1671

    garn9173 Icon

    Apr 4, 2005
    Don't hold your breath on D* carrying the regional Pac-12 networks.


  8. Jun 7, 2012 #48 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    And people line up to watch Poker om ESPN and Fox sports? Seriously.....

    I would agree on soccer, but yuou'd be surprised the following it has.
  9. Jun 7, 2012 #49 of 1671

    Riverpilot AllStar

    Aug 13, 2010
    I'd like to watch the pac12 out here in the midwest, since I'm an Arizona State U. alum. :D

    As for poker ratings? The world series of poker, on espn, scored a .5 rating (646,000 viewers).
  10. Jun 7, 2012 #50 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    Cool, ironically I am also an ASU alum:hurah:
  11. Jun 11, 2012 #51 of 1671

    kick4fun Godfather

    Aug 9, 2006
    GO COUGS!!! I've already told my wife that if I can't watch all Cougar games on Directv, I'm signing up with comcast. Enough said!
  12. Jun 11, 2012 #52 of 1671

    FenixTX Godfather

    Nov 11, 2005
    Well so long and enjoy Comcrap then. :)
  13. Jun 11, 2012 #53 of 1671

    Boston_bill Icon

    Jul 23, 2009
    Ive become an Arizona State fan over the last few years my ex girlfriend was from AZ. Really hoping we get the Pac-12 Network. I got almost every ASU game on FSAZ.
  14. Jun 11, 2012 #54 of 1671

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    That says it all right there.

    Do they really need of all of these new RSN's when they already have perfectly good RSN's already in place in all of those regions that can show the games?

    I guess it really is all about the money.
  15. Jun 13, 2012 #55 of 1671

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    Apr 9, 2006
    Under this theory, did Time Warner need to start a new RSN for Laker games when there is a perfectly good Fox Sports channel?

    Did Comcast need to start a sports channel in Houston?

    Do the Mets and Yankees really need to show themselves on two different sports channels in New York?

    Do we really need ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN Classic, and then ESPN3 web streaming?

    I guess we can go on and on with this.....
  16. Jun 13, 2012 #56 of 1671

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Go back a few years when the Chicago teams dumped FSN and started CSN that they own 80% of. They wanted more control over there own broadcasts.
  17. Jun 14, 2012 #57 of 1671
    Michael H..

    Michael H.. Member

    May 31, 2007
    I'm getting all my information through unofficial channels, not from the PAC12 Network or DirecTV, but blogs like this one, so I can't guarantee it's accuracy. What I understand the dispute between those two is:
    1) $$
    2) What/where stations/programming
    The 7 stations are comprised of a national station (I'll call it 12.1), and six regional stations of geographically-paired stations, UA & ASU (12.2 Arizona), Stanford & UCB (12.3 Bay Area), ... similarly (Los Angeles), (Mountain), (Oregon), (Washington).

    The national station will carry the "marquee" game, attempting to rotate/balance coverage during the season amongst the member schools... There is discussion (but no contractual restriction) to limiting each member school to no more than 2 "national" broadcasts... But when ratings are taken into account, will USC end up appearing 5 times on 12.1?
    The home team, in cases of different regional teams, will comprise the region designated station... UCLA@ASU will be broadcast on 12.2 Arizona, but not on the Los Angeles station.

    The PAC12 is attempting to schedule games where one team is home and the other on the road, or at different times if both teams are at home so there are no broadcast conflicts.
    The network model maximizes the number of games/sports which can be broadcast over the seven stations, but also virtually requires that all seven stations are CONUS to enable viewers across the country to ensure that they can watch their particular team.
    This seems to replicate the current RSN/out-of-market RSN's format, but differs in one fundamental way.
    There is a "virtual" 12.1-equivalent RSN which is a default broadcast over all of the regionals, not just over the "PAC12" region, but across all regionals nationwide. The same game is simulcast on most of the regions, with the exception of blackouts or region-specific exclusive negotiated contracts. Those of you with the regional package have seen what I'm talking about... Ball ST@Ohio ST is on all of the RSN's.

    All of you that are promising to leave DirecTV, need to take into account that what the PAC12 Network folks are insisting that DTV carry... and pay for... is a departure from the current options, and when it appears that all of the other conferences seem like-minded, it is apparent that DTV can't accomodate ALL of them... there is going to have to be some sort of compromise.

    As a UCLA alum, who lives out of state, I would like to see this come to fruition in its entirety... but I don't see it happening.
  18. Jun 14, 2012 #58 of 1671

    mws192 Godfather

    Jun 17, 2010
    Carry the national feed full time and have football and basketball game-only part time feeds for the rest. Problem solved.

    Questions? See BTN.
  19. Jun 14, 2012 #59 of 1671

    Devo1237 Legend

    Apr 22, 2008
    How would this work if you have cable in LA and only get the national P12 channel and the LA regional one? Would you not have access to the game? Is P12 expecting all the cable operators to carry all 7 channels? I thought that was a unique problem for the satellite guys which is why they're much more reluctant to sign on.
  20. Jun 14, 2012 #60 of 1671

    mws192 Godfather

    Jun 17, 2010
    This could very well end with out-of-market cable and satellite subscribers being forced to watch many of the games via the PAC-12 Network's online (authenticated) offering.

    Oregon fan living in LA? Get your PAC12-ToGo app ready!
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