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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Aug 20, 2012 #721 of 1671
    maartena

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    I believe they will launch it for sure, but I have a feeling DirecTV might miss the first weekend of football.

    We're talking 7 channels, so I think they may want to test them for the regular testing period. So if they show up on test this Wednesday, we'll see football next week. If we don't see them in test, you better start making other arrangement if the first week of football is important to you.
     
  2. Aug 20, 2012 #722 of 1671
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    Then they better be prepared to staff their call centers, email boxes, and facebook pages for all the folks calling to complain....it will bring a sleepy Saturday Labor Day weekend to a standstill with calls......and while folks can summarily dismiss the Pac 12 calls, if they piss off the people calling for other reasons who can't get through then it will bring a second set of people that are pissed - the Pac 12 folks and the non-Pac 12 folks who can't get their concerns heard because all the Pac 12 folks will be clogging the lines. Not to mention they'll get more Better Business Bureau negative complaints that won't help them.

    My feeling is that if they are not all in from moment one of the season openers then it will create utter chaos, on Thurs 8/30 and all through the weekend. It probably will bring the call center to a standstill a few days befoee 8/30 as well if Utah folks can't get their TV for the 8/30 opener. Recall they already got the shaft from issues with the MTN channel, so they know full well how to complain.

    Now, if they announce they'll have it at week two before week one that may mitigate some, but I will nevertheless harass them if I miss a moment. Sure they can hang up on me, but they'll waste their time doing it. Let's face it, CEO Mike White makes a ton and it's time he show some leadership on this issue.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2012 #723 of 1671
    banditt76

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    Have you not looked at DirecTV's FB page? They have been dealing with it for months already.
     
  4. Aug 20, 2012 #724 of 1671
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    I don't see how the call center will see more traffic than during the Viacom dispute.

    And leadership doesn't necessarily mean adding the channels. Leadership sometimes means saying "no."
     
  5. Aug 20, 2012 #725 of 1671
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    I'm sure they will be. They were able to weather Viacom, Tribune, and other disputes. And as said above, they are already dealing with it. They have sailed through much, much worse storms.

    I'm still convinced they WILL carry PAC-12, and they may even make it before football starts. I'm just saying that since these are 7 channels, and there is some testing involved, that it might slip by the first weekend of football. We already missed live soccer by the way, that college season has started.

    You are a person that knows a lot more than the average football viewer simply by visiting this site, so I would imagine you have at least scheduled a cable install in case they don't make a deal before football starts. At least, I believe you have stated you would switch, so I am assuming you already scheduled for say upcoming weekend, so you don't have to take last-minute time off of work to host a cable installer - But I might be assuming wrong and you will leave it up to the last minute.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2012 #726 of 1671
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    Especially this was coming at us for months, with high media attention in the last 4 weeks. Viacom was a case of: "oh hi, we'll be taking your channels away tomorrow", where the PAC-12 was announced for a LONG time, and if the start of football season is important enough to either switch, or to ADD cable service (many cable companies are month to month no contracts) for a month or 2, they would have already planned for it.

    It's like saying:

    2 months before trip: I'm a gonna go to NYC!
    1 month before trip: I'm a gonna go to NYC and I see good deals on flights.
    1 week before NYC: What happened to all the good prices?
    1 day before NYC: I AM GONNA CALL AND COMPLAIN how dare they charge me $800 for coach and I have to sit in the middle all the way in the back row?

    Of course everything depends on how important it is. For me? I don't watch football or basketball, but would like to see a little soccer, field hockey, and some track and field. So I will survive, even if they don't carry it at all.

    But if football is important.... it might be important enough to ADD cable for 1 month. You'd only need the basic package, it comes with PAC-12 local network.

    My plans: Wait and sit it out. PAC-12 will come when it comes.

    What are your plans? (directed to everyone, not just tony :D )
     
  7. Aug 20, 2012 #727 of 1671
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    All value judgements of the individual. I chose fios over Comcast for my internet because the TV portion that basically comes along for the ride had some of the DC locals in hi def and Comcast had none. And folks in Philly have to make the choice for CSN.
    Well, personally, I will wait. I love sports but if I don't see PAC 12 stuff other than what is on ABC or ESPN, so be it. The PAC 12 is not that near and dear to my heart. Plus I have no other choice in my area. Fios and Comcast are my other choices and neither has it here. (I do not have line of sight to Dish, as if that would help anyway.)

    If I were a big PAC 12 fan, I would not want to do without DirecTV, so I would figure out the lowest configuration of both DirecTV and cable that would give me what I wanted with an option to cut down. I did that with fios on premiums until DirecTV added most of them.
     
  8. Aug 20, 2012 #728 of 1671
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    For most folks like me who have no access to any cable operators, I simply have to wait and hope that, in the mean time, the games I want to watch are broadcast on ABC, ESPN, Fox, FX, or the like. I really have no other option.

    I was told by a trusted source from the Oregon State athletic dept. that the PAC-12 is a long way off on a deal with Dish and that a deal with DIRECTV was "close".

    Hopefully, the PAC-12's version of "close" isn't like DIRECTV's version of "soon". :grin:
     
  9. Aug 20, 2012 #729 of 1671
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    Both DirecTV and Pac12 networks know they need each other. The network covers 7 of the top 30 DMAs(last #s I saw). DirecTV could/would risk losing customers or customers dropping down levels without the channel. For that reason I have a feeling things will worked out, be it one full time channel and the rest part time until more bandwidth is made available. I would think D* could put the nat'l channel on full time and use PPV channels for games as needed the 1st few weeks, when more bandwidth is worked out they could "light up the rest." Hopefully around Labor Day this thread can be retired...

    If this isn't worked out soon I am sure we will hear ads "do you want to watch the PAC 12? If you have Dish or DirecTV you can't do it.....switch to Xfinity/TWC to not miss any of your schools games."

    As for my plans to watch.....Comcast is set up at my office, I set up a Slingbox there for this exact reason.
     
  10. Aug 20, 2012 #730 of 1671
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    while it would be nice to have the pac-12 so i can watch oregon st games its not a deal breaker for me as i am a sec guy first
     
  11. Aug 20, 2012 #731 of 1671
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    Although not in the form of ads (yet), this has already happened on a different level. I have only heard of 1 case, but my colleague here called TWC to inquire about switching to cable, and was convinced by a rep that DirecTV would not be carrying PAC12 or TWC Sportsnet.

    Now, I think the rep was just trying to get his quota and would say a lot.... but it is very conceivable that they wrote an email to DirecTV to which they got a canned "at this time we do not carry....." type response.

    Interestingly enough shortly after the TWC rep stated what he stated to my work mate, DirecTV changed the language in the e-mail to "we will have more information closer to when the school year starts". That tells me they probably had some other people telling them "but my cable company says....".

    The reality is though: DirecTV won't be bullied by anyone to get the deal done faster. If the money isn't right, the money isn't right, and they will continue to talk until a decision is made either way.

    If the channels aren't in test this Wednesday, we may not see football on DirecTV come Labor Day weekend. They could still launch in test as far our as Monday, with launch 2 days later on Wednesday, right before the 1st football game on Thursday the 30th, but IF the first weekend is important to you, Wednesday would probably be a good indicator on whether you need to cancel or keep your already scheduled cable appointment, if applicable.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2012 #732 of 1671
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    Jon Wilner from the SJ Mercury New, whom has been VERY GOOD on PAC-12 information, just tweeted that the PAC12 and D* are very close to getting a deal done soon, and once finished it will be live in a matter of hour. Transmission groundwork already being laid. (Early next week)

    So Satelliteracer, as a Utah fan and D* subscriber, do I need to make plans to be at a friends house for the Utah game Aug 30? (I know you can't answer that)
     
  13. Aug 20, 2012 #733 of 1671
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    That blog has been saying they are "very close" to a deal for about a month now, and he really doesn't offer much new information.

    I would not be surprised that DirecTV already receives the feeds in to their building, or it is waiting for a decryption key.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2012 #734 of 1671
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    Hmm. Never happened that quickly. Even if they are testing internally they have not tested from the birds.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2012 #735 of 1671
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    If they work out the deal, I can see things happening quickly. The PAC 12 nets TV offices are located in the same building as CSN BA/CA. So satellite communications would already be in place.
     
  16. Aug 20, 2012 #736 of 1671
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    A tweet from @PAC12insider

    #PAC12 and #DirecTV could have deal in place as early as Wed on the PAC-12 Network.

    NO idea if they are officially affiliated with PAC 12.
     
  17. Aug 20, 2012 #737 of 1671
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    They already are in place. That is how most cable companies, including the po-dunk-small-town ones that signed on, receive their feeds.
     
  18. Aug 20, 2012 #738 of 1671
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    Charter isn't caring the the channel yet so no provider in my area has it so im waiting it out no matter what.

    Based on all these reports on twitter from the pac12 and DirecTV it doesn't sound like bandwidth has anything to do with the agreement at this point but rather what packages the different channels will be in in different areas.
     
  19. Aug 20, 2012 #739 of 1671
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    That's what I am thinking as well. BIG10 is in the Sports Pack, and I think DirecTV wants all channels in Sports Pack as well. Would make them a nice chunk of change.
     
  20. Aug 20, 2012 #740 of 1671
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    Here's a few interesting tweets that will fuel the fire.... from that Jon Wilner guy:

    A twitter question from someone: @JasonKleinman

    @wilnerhotline I live in LA and once DTV gets Pac-12 will I have option to get the Arizona network on a special tier?

    Answer by @wilnerhotline:

    @JasonKleinman Expect DTV will give you option for L.A. and National feed. Not sure about other regional feeds



    And then these:

    @wilnerhotline
    Piecing together info from sources on Pac12 & DirecTV: Cant predict last-minute snags but would b very surprised if deal not done soon.

    @espn700bill
    Looks like #DirecTV and @pac12 Network are close to a deal @wilnerhotline reporting it will happen soon. He joins us at 2:40 on @espn700

    That just happened as it is mountain time. Missed it.
     
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