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#1 ·
just wondering if anyone thinks that the mountain network that goes off may 31 will be replaced by the pac 12 network?
 
#902 ·
maartena said:
So....what is the source of these "real" numbers, and how can we verify them?
I believe I answered that within my post..

Aid of Education; a industry website that reports projections and numbers within a given fiscal year. Because I told you my wife works for Colorado State University and formerly WSU as a Director of Annual Giving, she has to have access to what the schools are truly reporting from their alumni.

I wish you could verify them, but I suppose you might have to work in the planned giving for a University. You might just have to take my word for it.. Even given the info you gave me, the school only has around 17,500 undergrads per year.. http://about.usc.edu/facts/

The big schools like Arizona State, Cal, UCLA aren't private institutions, so naturally their alumni are larger. Stanford and USC are always going to be smaller in terms of their Undergrads.

Also, really I suppose this doesn't mean much considering LA really gets behind USC football. Heck, they have won 11 National Championships. In that regard, they are big. NO QUESTION. Seating Capacity is 93,000. Again pretty huge.. I suppose I went off on a tangent considering a Big University, one that has a large Undergrad population.

I'll finish with the parting thought. USC is most definitely a Powerhouse. More Trojans have been taken into the NFL than any other University. But unless you play football, USC = University of Second Choice.. --Tiger Woods at Stanford..- haha.. :)
 
#903 ·
kick4fun said:
Sigma, with much respect.... I must say the drama is funny...

We need a little humor to mute our anxiousness with this whole Pac12- Directv thing..

Mahalo
It is funny, I agree. It's funny how much Pac12 fans think they're the best. ;) I'm not biased, either, I love the University of Arizona (and support your Cougs a little because my cousin received her doctorate in veterinary medicine from WSU).
 
#904 ·
sigma1914 said:
It is funny, I agree. It's funny how much Pac12 fans think they're the best. ;) I'm not biased, either, I love the University of Arizona (and support your Cougs a little because my cousin received her doctorate in veterinary medicine from WSU).
I like Arizona as well, my family lives in Tucson. One of the best experiences for me was, when living in Washington, moving away from the Big City of Seattle :) and traveling to a small little town on the other side of state. Nothing else around but wheat fields. Since the town of Pullman, WA is so small, the close nit family of being a Cougar fan is natural. "Once a Coug, always a Coug".
 
#905 ·
So lets say this thing gets done quick like. And we get all 7 channels 1 is National, 1 is regional (if you are in the region) the other 5 are Sports Pack (or 6 if out of region).

Where will all these channels go? I've read that the National will go to 626 (ironically the area code for the Rose Bowl). What about the rest? Anyone want to take some guesses?
 
#906 ·
Following up with above. I live in Portland, OR. What happens to 687 (Root NW)? Does it go to part time? It will only have the Mariners as a major market along with the occasional Portland Timbers/Seattle Sounders Soccer (Football) match.
They can't survive on that alone, It will be about as useful as Comcast Sports NW. Only a 1 team channel.
 
#907 ·
woj027 said:
So lets say this thing gets done quick like. And we get all 7 channels 1 is National, 1 is regional (if you are in the region) the other 5 are Sports Pack (or 6 if out of region).

Where will all these channels go? I've read that the National will go to 626 (ironically the area code for the Rose Bowl). What about the rest? Anyone want to take some guesses?
Good Question.... I'm gonna say they take some of the channels in the 700's?
 
#908 ·
woj027 said:
Following up with above. I live in Portland, OR. What happens to 687 (Root NW)? Does it go to part time? It will only have the Mariners as a major market along with the occasional Portland Timbers/Seattle Sounders Soccer (Football) match.
They can't survive on that alone, It will be about as useful as Comcast Sports NW. Only a 1 team channel.
I'd rather take from Root or some of the FSN channels.. There's nothing on those anyway..
 
#909 ·
woj027 said:
Following up with above. I live in Portland, OR. What happens to 687 (Root NW)? Does it go to part time? It will only have the Mariners as a major market along with the occasional Portland Timbers/Seattle Sounders Soccer (Football) match.
They can't survive on that alone, It will be about as useful as Comcast Sports NW. Only a 1 team channel.
Sure they can survive on the Mariners. That is 162 games a year.
 
#910 ·
kick4fun said:
I like Arizona as well, my family lives in Tucson. One of the best experiences for me was, when living in Washington, moving away from the Big City of Seattle :) and traveling to a small little town on the other side of state. Nothing else around but wheat fields. Since the town of Pullman, WA is so small, the close nit family of being a Cougar fan is natural. "Once a Coug, always a Coug".
I was born & lived in Tucson 11 years...the UofA was my first experience to live sports. My cousin, who did her undergrad at Arizona, loved Pullman. She shared beautiful pictures.
 
#911 ·
sigma1914 said:
You're overly dramatic - other than football and basketball VERY little people care about the other sports. Also, even a whole lot less care about horrible matchups week 1. Look at what's on Opening night...

Northern Colorado at Utah or No. 9 South Carolina at Vanderbilt? Easy choice what people will watch.

The real teams are on real channels - USC (FX) & Oregon (ESPN).
Even not so real teams in real conferences play on real channels. ;)
Kentucky at Louisville - ESPN
Kent State at Kentucky - CSS
Western Kentucky at Kentucky - ESPNU.

Kentucky will be lucky to finish as high as 12 in the 14 team SEC, but every game will be televised. The South Carolina at Vanderbilt game you mentioned is on ESPN, and Vanderbuilt will be fighting with Kentucky and Mississippi State over the bottom three spots in the conference standings.
 
#912 ·
kick4fun said:
I'll finish with the parting thought. USC is most definitely a Powerhouse. More Trojans have been taken into the NFL than any other University. But unless you play football, USC = University of Second Choice.. --Tiger Woods at Stanford..- haha.. :)
I have no affiliation with either USC or UCLA, but you seem to be wanting to put USC down as much as possible.... Second choice you say?

USC ranked #1 among Universities taking home MEDALS at the London Olympics, and TIED with Stanford for the number of GOLD medals.

http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/education/universities-olympic-medals/

Stanford and USC also tied for sending the most athletes to the Olympics, with 40 each. Which would seem to indicate more athletes from USC and Stanford have WON during the Olympic Qualifiers.

So apparently.... the other sports USC does quite well in as well.

See also here: http://www.usctrojans.com/genrel/081212aab.html

And unfortunately.... I would have to go with the alumni numbers on the website of USC. If that is as official a number I can get to, then that is what it is. No disrespect to your wife, but numbers that can't be backed up might as well not exist.
 
#914 ·
maartena said:
I have no affiliation with either USC or UCLA, but you seem to be wanting to put USC down as much as possible.... Second choice you say?

USC ranked #1 among Universities taking home MEDALS at the London Olympics, and TIED with Stanford for the number of GOLD medals.

http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/education/universities-olympic-medals/

Stanford and USC also tied for sending the most athletes to the Olympics, with 40 each. Which would seem to indicate more athletes from USC and Stanford have WON during the Olympic Qualifiers.

So apparently.... the other sports USC does quite well in as well.

See also here: http://www.usctrojans.com/genrel/081212aab.html

And unfortunately.... I would have to go with the alumni numbers on the website of USC. If that is as official a number I can get to, then that is what it is. No disrespect to your wife, but numbers that can't be backed up might as well not exist.
Your a tool.. I was having fun with the whole USC thing.. You're sensitive and despite your lack of not really hearing me, I will move on.. I don't and haven't put USC down other than the small quip of what Tiger Woods said. Get over it and let's please move on because we both agree that the PAC 12 network on Directv would be great.
 
#915 ·
kick4fun said:
let's please move on because we both agree that the PAC 12 network on Directv would be great.
That we can agree on. :)
 
#916 ·
woj027 said:
But would that make it a part time channel? not the full time it is now.
It depends on what other, non-game programming they offer that might be worth to watch. And maybe they still broadcast sports not affiliated with PAC12, local universities, high schools, that sort of thing.
 
#917 ·
"woj027" said:
But would that make it a part time channel? not the full time it is now.
Why? It has other programming just like all the other RSNs out there.

Plus who owns it?
 
#921 ·
fleckrj said:
Even not so real teams in real conferences play on real channels. ;)
Kentucky at Louisville - ESPN
Kent State at Kentucky - CSS
Western Kentucky at Kentucky - ESPNU.

Kentucky will be lucky to finish as high as 12 in the 14 team SEC, but every game will be televised. The South Carolina at Vanderbilt game you mentioned is on ESPN, and Vanderbuilt will be fighting with Kentucky and Mississippi State over the bottom three spots in the conference standings.
You're wrong about Vandy, they're turning a corner and will be better. They had their first ranked recruiting class this year. Watch...

Also, the bottom 4 of the SEC is still better than the jokers playing the Pac12 teams like Northern Arizona or SJSU.
 
#922 ·
woj027 said:
This big company called DirecTV owns it.
Well, there is ONE reason it won't go away. :D
(Although, they could make it part-time of course).
 
#926 ·
sigma1914 said:
You're wrong about Vandy, they're turning a corner and will be better. They had their first ranked recruiting class this year. Watch...

Also, the bottom 4 of the SEC is still better than the jokers playing the Pac12 teams like Northern Arizona or SJSU.
SJSU is a team on the rise, you're a bit off with your quote there. I understand you're on the East Coast and don't hear a lot about them. The school is pouring a ton of money into their athletic program and in the process of building the "Bill Walsh Sports" complex that will include an entirely new facility for their football team and other sports. They finally have a commitement from area grads and businesses to grow the sports programs. They just brought on a new AD (former one left for Memphis) and will be moving to the Mountain West Conf.

I am not a grad of the school nor do I root for them, just know some of the facts about the program.

These comments about the Pac 12 and West Coast schools in general show what a horrible TV deal the Pac 12 had in the past. Nobody really saw any of their games outside of USC. People now are starting to see "Wow Andrew Luck is really a good QB." Those that watched the Pac 12 over the last 3 years could tell you, he has been this good the last 3 years. Finally with the new ESPN/FOX deal and the Pac 12 channels the Pac games will be seen by a larger audience.
 
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