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#1 ·
just wondering if anyone thinks that the mountain network that goes off may 31 will be replaced by the pac 12 network?
 
#928 ·
this is just killing me. I love my D*, have for years. as an Oregon fan in the L.A. area, its tough not knowing what games I will be able to see (or not see). the second two games are now listed as being on the P12N, so already I am anticipating missing them. sadly, my only other options are charter cable and Uverse, and neither has made an agreement either. in previous years there were issues with a game or two a season, and I was excited about the P12N eliminating that.

one bit of news/rumor, is that Oregon's last four games will be on FOX, along with the Pac 12 championship game.

does it seem odd that the championship game would be on something other than the P12N?
 
#929 ·
cambo357 said:
this is just killing me. I love my D*, have for years. as an Oregon fan in the L.A. area, its tough not knowing what games I will be able to see (or not see). the second two games are now listed as being on the P12N, so already I am anticipating missing them. sadly, my only other options are charter cable and Uverse, and neither has made an agreement either. in previous years there were issues with a game or two a season, and I was excited about the P12N eliminating that.

one bit of news/rumor, is that Oregon's last four games will be on FOX, along with the Pac 12 championship game.

does it seem odd that the championship game would be on something other than the P12N?
You needn't worry about the Pac-12 Championship Game. :D

GO BEAVS!!!!:jumpingja
 
#935 ·
http://blog.pac-12.com/pac-12-networks-your-questions-answered/

Why isn't my TV provider distributing in my area? Isn't this a national network?

Pac-12 Networks is indeed national. Our carriers are offering our Networks in many of the largest TV markets across the country, both inside and outside of our conference footprint. But there still are select markets outside of Pac-12 territory where our distributors have not yet rolled out Pac-12 Networks. All Pac-12 Networks distributors have the right to offer all seven of our Networks to all of their subscribers across the country.* We repeat: all of our distribution partners have the option to offer our Networks on their systems.

Here's the thing: our distributors decide how to package the Networks in the outer markets like Chicago, Washington D.C. and Houston. That's where you guys come in. You have to push your carriers to distribute Pac-12 Networks. Tell them you want the Networks, you need the Networks, you might die if you don't get the Networks. Our staff is relaying your sense of urgency in the negotiations, but the carriers need to hear it from you, the fans, because that's ultimately where their money is coming from. You can do that by emailing your provider through our Channel Finder at iwantpac12networks.com.
Directv might actually help Comcast outer area customers. I truly believe that once dtv offers this nationwide it will force Comcast to address this
 
#938 ·
superdeluxe said:
http://blog.pac-12.com/pac-12-networks-your-questions-answered/
Directv might actually help Comcast outer area customers. I truly believe that once dtv offers this nationwide it will force Comcast to address this
Yes and no... I don't for a moment believe that Comcast would offer all 7 networks in HD on their cable systems. They may add the national network.

DirecTV has a good opportunity to score though. Adding these 7 channels in HD (or 6, but I think it probably will be 7) will give them an edge over all providers in all regions, as they will then be the only ones (with the exception of TWC Hawaii) to offer all networks.
 
#940 ·
"sum_random_dork" said:
The Championship game was part of the deal when FOX and ESPN signed on, I think it alternates between the 2 networks year to year.
Besides, who would want their championship game on a smaller channel rather than a national channel available everywhere?
 
#942 ·
oklahoma258 said:
Does anyone have any idea when the Pac-12 Network channels will actually be on Directv (a day or time?)?
The only people who have any idea of that at all are on the negogiation teams. And they ain't talking.
 
#944 ·
Sandra said:
If they're still in negotiations, they probably don't know at this point either.
Well... I get the sense that DirecTV really WANTS the channels, and is working to make it happen one way or another, but they want to make sure they pay the right price.

DirecTV is known for its last-minute negotiations. Another thing to note in all this is that the price is usually per viewer. With DirecTV, it is either 20 million, or not 20 million, where with cable companies they could negotiate for just the in-market areas, and just access to a limited number of channels.... there is just a bit more to consider. That said, I agree they should have already come to an agreement. Obviously DirecTV is focussed on football as the money maker, causing me to miss some Field Hockey games, but I believe that they should have launched the channels on August 15th, so from the beginning.
 
#946 ·
At this point, with 15 months since launch date and discussions I think both sides know where each other stands. It's just a matter of how bad either of them wants to do the deal.

If Directv does not come to terms by the 1st game they will lose customers and for each day that they fail to do a deal they'll lose more customers. That's the reality, not to mention that they better staff their call site well over Labor Day weekend to get all the complaints they know they'll get.

The ball is clearly in Directv's court to make a decision right now.

maartena said:
Well... I get the sense that DirecTV really WANTS the channels, and is working to make it happen one way or another, but they want to make sure they pay the right price.

DirecTV is known for its last-minute negotiations. Another thing to note in all this is that the price is usually per viewer. With DirecTV, it is either 20 million, or not 20 million, where with cable companies they could negotiate for just the in-market areas, and just access to a limited number of channels.... there is just a bit more to consider. That said, I agree they should have already come to an agreement. Obviously DirecTV is focussed on football as the money maker, causing me to miss some Field Hockey games, but I believe that they should have launched the channels on August 15th, so from the beginning.
 
#951 ·
WebTraveler said:
At this point, with 15 months since launch date and discussions I think both sides know where each other stands. It's just a matter of how bad either of them wants to do the deal.

If Directv does not come to terms by the 1st game they will lose customers and for each day that they fail to do a deal they'll lose more customers. That's the reality, not to mention that they better staff their call site well over Labor Day weekend to get all the complaints they know they'll get.

The ball is clearly in Directv's court to make a decision right now.
I agree with your first two paragraphs, but not your last sentence. Both sides know where the other stands, and DirecTV will lose customers if they do not carry the PAC 12 network. I expect that the item that is still in dispute is exactly how much DirecTV is expected to, versus is willing to, pay to carry the networks.

From DirecTV's perspective this is a huge committment of resources - seven CONUS HD slots for channels that will have marginal draw east of the Rockies. I am sure DirecTV has already calculated where the break-even point is for them. The more they have to pay for the channels, the more customers they can afford to lose by not carrying the chanels. I do not think DirecTV can make money on this deal. It is just a matter of whether they will lose less by paying the PAC 12 what it wants or by losing customers in the PAC 12 territory because they do not carry the channels.

Whether they can gain (or retain) more customers by using the CONUS HD slots for other programming versus committing those slots to a conference that has, in recent times, been not much more than a mid-major when it comes to sports that people outside of the PAC 12 territory will actually watch (one team in the NCAA men's basketball tournament in 2012, and how many years since a BCS football championship?).

I really think the ball is in the PAC 12's court. If the PAC 12 would have allowed DirecTV to carry the channels for a reasonable (to DirecTV) fee, the channels would have been up already.
 
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