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#1 ·
just wondering if anyone thinks that the mountain network that goes off may 31 will be replaced by the pac 12 network?
 
#952 ·
oklahoma258 said:
Does anyone have any idea when the Pac-12 Network channels will actually be on Directv (a day or time?)?
I just hope it's "WHEN", and not "IF".

As a UCLA alum replanted in ME, PAC8... (+4 ex-WAC'ish-castoffs) broadcasts east of the Catskills (actually east of the Rockies) are few and far between.
Coverage much like the NFL weekly highlights while in England in the late-80's hosted by (retired PK) Nick Mike-Mayer at 3AM GMT.

I've gone to four different SuperBowls, though all before the multiple "X" era.
The amounts I paid for admission were $10 twice, $20 once, and $25 once.
In the days of < $100 face value tickets, so not nearly as underpriced in comparison to today's market.
The main reason they were so cheap?
This was the price as soon as the opening kickoff got off.

I suspect that DirecTV is waiting for the PAC12 network opening kickoff, knowing that the price of a ticket is going to freefall...
 
#955 ·
Michael Hilley said:
I just hope it's "WHEN", and not "IF".

As a UCLA alum replanted in ME, PAC8... (+4 ex-WAC'ish-castoffs) broadcasts east of the Catskills (actually east of the Rockies) are few and far between.
Coverage much like the NFL weekly highlights while in England in the late-80's hosted by (retired PK) Nick Mike-Mayer at 3AM GMT.

I've gone to four different SuperBowls, though all before the multiple "X" era.
The amounts I paid for admission were $10 twice, $20 once, and $25 once.
In the days of < $100 face value tickets, so not nearly as underpriced in comparison to today's market.
The main reason they were so cheap?
This was the price as soon as the opening kickoff got off.

I suspect that DirecTV is waiting for the PAC12 network opening kickoff, knowing that the price of a ticket is going to freefall...
The price for every distributor is the same no matter what. If DirecTV doesn't have this by Labor Day, then we will never see it.
 
#956 ·
DC_SnDvl said:
DTV is going to need to change their website. If you click on the who has more sports they are showing 9 PAC-12 logos.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/sports/gameplan
Technically, home teams own the TV rights in college sports, so if Cal were playing at Virginia Tech, the game *could* be on Gameplan. Or, if the game were an out of region ABC or ESPN telecast, even if it were a PAC 12 conference game.
 
#957 ·
kick4fun said:
Ya, they are missing OSU, UCLA and Arizona St. ....

Crazy.. Can't show all 12 teams unless they get the Pac 12 Network.. FOOLS
That's an ad for Gameplan, not for college sports...
 
#958 ·
Eksynyt said:
The price for every distributor is the same no matter what. If DirecTV doesn't have this by Labor Day, then we will never see it.
I doubt that either half of your statement is true, but if the first half is true on a per customer basis, then you are correct that we will never see the PAC 12 on DirecTV. A cable company that is serving a city in PAC 12 territory should (and will be willing to) pay more per customer to carry the PAC 12 channels, because a higher percentage of their viewers will want to watch compared to the percentage of DirecTV (or Dish) customers who care about the PAC 12.

I think that might be where the sticking point is. The PAC 12 probably does expect DirecTV to pay the same rate per customer that the cable company that serves Los Angeles is paying, and DirecTV is not going to do that, because at least 80% of DirecTV's customer base has no interest in the PAC 12.
 
#959 ·
tonyd79 said:
Technically, home teams own the TV rights in college sports, so if Cal were playing at Virginia Tech, the game *could* be on Gameplan. Or, if the game were an out of region ABC or ESPN telecast, even if it were a PAC 12 conference game.
You have to admit that if you don't know any better and go to the page you might think you could see a lot of PAC-12 games.
 
#960 ·
Eksynyt said:
The price for every distributor is the same no matter what. If DirecTV doesn't have this by Labor Day, then we will never see it.
The price PAC12 ASKS may be the same, but every tv outlet negotiates differently. This is one of the reasons why terms are never disclosed once the deals are finalized.
 
#961 ·
fleckrj said:
Snip. Both sides know where the other stands, and DirecTV will lose customers if they do not carry the PAC 12 network. I expect that the item that is still in dispute is exactly how much DirecTV is expected to, versus is willing to, pay to carry the networks.

Snipped
They are both losing money here. DirecTV from any subscribers they loose. Pac12 from the money they could be getting from DirecTV.

So there is pressure to get the deal done. It just depends on who blinks first.

My Guess at some point Pac12 will decide that half a loaf is better than no loaf.

Sarcasm on
Sort of like how well AMC is doing not being on Dishnetwork! Oh wait they're losing real money there. :goodjob: :beatdeadhorse:
Sarcasm off
 
#962 ·
Eksynyt said:
If DirecTV doesn't have this by Labor Day, then we will never see it.
Actually, I think that Jon Wilner guy had it right -- if they don't make a deal by the Sept 22 Cal-USC game, then the deal isn't happening this year. As much as I want to see all the games, that really is the biggest matchup on the P12 networks this year. Especially if USC is still undefeated, which they should be if they don't stumble against the farm.
 
#963 ·
DC_SnDvl said:
You have to admit that if you don't know any better and go to the page you might think you could see a lot of PAC-12 games.
Oh yeah. But I am not going to see a "lot" of Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska or Michigan State on gameplan. Even less than PAC 12 because the Big Ten has the reverse mirror with ESPN/ABC, which means (almost?) every Big Ten game that is not on BTN will be available on ESPN or ABC in every part of the country.

I'm willing to bet that ZERO Michigan games are on Gameplan this year.
 
#967 ·
mattgwyther said:
Utah play-by-play guy Bill Riley @espn700Bill just tweeted "@espn700bill: Based on conversations I've had today, I'm expecting the #Pac12 Network and #DirecTV deal to roll out Monday barring a snag."
He also tweeted this:

@espn700bill
@mikey_t19 I've been told that Dish and #Pac12 Network aren't talking.
 
#968 ·
maartena said:
He also tweeted this:

@espn700bill
@mikey_t19 I've been told that Dish and #Pac12 Network aren't talking.
Yes, I read that.. Makes me feel good about my choice early on to get DIRECTV. Even though I've had one hiccup with a Directv booth a couple of weeks ago and it was rectified by a personal email from CEO Mike White, I love Directv.. No Plans to change.. Just really want this deal to happen now.
GO PAC 12
 
#973 ·
mattgwyther said:
Thursday afternoon is when us Ute fans will first feel it.. We have a yawner vs. Northern Colorado which is the first football game on the network
If the deal gets signed, I am thinking they will go in test on Monday (or Tuesday early morning) and live on either Wednesday or Thursday, so you should be good.
 
#974 ·
Don't think so, we endured TheMTN. If they didn't switch then they/we are still around. Just have to find friend / bar (yes they have 1 or 2 of those in Utah) that has Comcast.

I am really optimistic for this deal to happen. I expect it to be in the same dollar range as BTN right now it's just a game of chicken between DTV and Larry Scott. It will get done by Sept 1 at the latest.
 
#975 ·
The Pac-12 has updated their schedules and stuff, for the Pac 12 networks.
Before, these were updated through Sept. 1st, when they were first launched.
Now they are updated through Sept. 30th.
Once you have clicked on any of the links below, you will have to scroll downward through all the pages to get to the programming on Sept. 30th.

We know they already released their "live" game schedules.
But this is their full networking programming schedules, including all seven networks. So you can see what games are rebroadcasts, and when, and also what games on the regional networks that are live (and not live on the national network) are then rebroadcast as an encore later on the national network. It seems lots of games that you'll miss on the national network (because they're on one of the regional networks) will still be rebroadcast later that night, or the next day (or one of the following days at some point) on the national network still.

Here are the links to the full programming schedules (updated programming through Sept. 30th now):

Pac-12 National Network:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/network.pdf

Pac-12 Arizona:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/arizona.pdf

Pac-12 Bay Area:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/bayarea.pdf

Pac-12 Los Angeles:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/losangeles.pdf

Pac-12 Mountain:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/mountain.pdf

Pac-12 Oregon:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/oregon.pdf

Pac-12 Washington:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/washington.pdf
 
#976 ·
BusterAvis said:
The Pac-12 has updated their schedules and stuff, for the Pac 12 networks.
Before, these were updated through Sept. 1st, when they were first launched.
Now they are updated through Sept. 30th.
Once you have clicked on any of the links below, you will have to scroll downward through all the pages to get to the programming on Sept. 30th.

We know they already released their "live" game schedules.
But this is their full networking programming schedules, including all seven networks. So you can see what games are rebroadcasts, and when, and also what games on the regional networks that are live (and not live on the national network) are then rebroadcast as an encore later on the national network. It seems lots of games that you'll miss on the national network (because they're on one of the regional networks) will still be rebroadcast later that night, or the next day (or one of the following days at some point) on the national network still.

Here are the links to the full programming schedules (updated programming through Sept. 30th now):

Pac-12 National Network:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/network.pdf

Pac-12 Arizona:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/arizona.pdf

Pac-12 Bay Area:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/bayarea.pdf

Pac-12 Los Angeles:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/losangeles.pdf

Pac-12 Mountain:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/mountain.pdf

Pac-12 Oregon:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/oregon.pdf

Pac-12 Washington:
http://pac-12.com/portals/0/images/programming-schedules/washington.pdf
I am seeing a TON of duplication.
 
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