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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Aug 21, 2012 #781 of 1671
    tonyd79

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    That is what he is trying. If it is brilliant only time will tell. Still think you build a conference as a conference, not regionally.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2012 #782 of 1671
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    It is bold for sure. I would think in THEORY it is indeed brilliant, but we'll have to see how it will pan out.

    What they really have going for them is the planning of coverage. They no longer are on RSN's, so they don't have to plan their games around live coverage of Major League teams that might be more important to show, nor do they run the chance of a "Heidi Moment" when the games run a lot longer then anticipated.

    Businesswise, for DirecTV, this can't be a bad deal. If they provide access to all channels via Sports Pack, I think they may see a nice little boost in subscribers to it over the next few months.
     
  3. Aug 21, 2012 #783 of 1671
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    I agree. A conference where each school has only one main rival is not much of a conference. From an east coast perspective, the entire PAC 12 looks like one region. ;)
     
  4. Aug 21, 2012 #784 of 1671
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    I 100% agree
     
  5. Aug 21, 2012 #785 of 1671
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    I guess this is the part I do not comprehend. There is no Major League team that would be more important to show than any SEC football game or any Kentucky or ACC basketball game, and the "Heidi Moments" are a thing of the past.
     
  6. Aug 21, 2012 #786 of 1671
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    It is because the West Coast is not a college sports hotbed the way the southeast or Midwest is. There are pockets but the west is more into pros or individual sporting activity like fitness or outdoors. Just different strokes. The PAC 12 is trying to build a market.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2012 #787 of 1671
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    They still happen unfortunately, in one way or another.... but that is another discussion, there is a wiki-list with all the Heidi Moments of recent years.

    It is also not about being "more important" or not, it is about contractual obligations. If a USC vs UCLA football game starts at 1, and a NBA Lakers vs Celtics game starts at 5 at the same channel, Fox Sports (with a 5 o'clock start for NHL Ducks @ Red Wings at Prime Ticket so they can't push it off to there either), and the football game is, due to delays, extra time, other issues.... is not over by 5 o'clock, that game WOULD have been cut to go to the live coverage of the major league NBA game. Luckily, this hasn't happened a lot in the last 10 years or so.... but here's a list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_moment

    Sometimes it is hard to avoid something like that happening, it is mostly due to contracts and obligations. Sometimes local affiliates (when broadcast nationally) also have gone back to their local programming after rain delay after rain delay pushed the game out so far they didn't think it was going to happen, only to find out it did later. :D

    Anyways, PAC12 will never have this problem as they own the channels and own the rights. They can decide to delay a soccer game coming up after the football game all they want.
     
  8. Aug 21, 2012 #788 of 1671
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    I'm feeling good about this Pac-12 deal happening soon. No Facts. Just a feeling.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2012 #789 of 1671
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    I can't wait for basketball season to start. Every conference game on TV. Woo hoo!!!
     
  10. Aug 21, 2012 #790 of 1671
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    That might be because the PAC 12 has not had anything worth watching since John Wooden retired ;)

    There was no NFL on the West Coast until 1946, no Major League baseball until 1958, and no NBA until 1960. Los Angeles, the largest market in the PAC 12, has not had a NFL team since 1994. The PAC 12 has been around in one form or another since 1915. If the PAC 12 can not compete with pros or individual sporting activities, I do not think 6 regional networks and 1 national feed is going to make a difference.
     
  11. Aug 21, 2012 #791 of 1671
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    It might. Availability is a big factor in building brand loyalty in every product type. And reliability. I know I tune to xyz at time abc and I get reliable programming.
     
  12. Aug 21, 2012 #792 of 1671
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    I would say that if they draw the same ratings as they did with Fox Sports channels in Los Angeles, (and/or fill in your regional RSN here) they are considered a success.

    The big test would be Football games scheduled head-to-head with big Major League teams and see what kind of crowd they get. Although they are probably still careful to schedule around any sports event in order to draw the largest possible crowd.
     
  13. Aug 21, 2012 #793 of 1671
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    I certainly hope that D* gets the PAC-12 network...and, hopefully, by 8/31 so that I can watch my alma mater San Jose State get killed by Stanford, even minus Andrew Luck.

    I already have the Sports Pack...so bring it on.

    If it's been covered previously, I apologize, but I have been seeing that some carriers are only carrying the national feed in SD...To me an agreement to carry the network only in SD is NO agreement at all.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2012 #794 of 1671
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    It wouldn't surprise me if DirecTV only gets the Pac-12 network in standard definition, and not HD.

    The only only cable companies getting the Pac-12 network in HD, are in the Pac-12 areas. Midwest, South, and East cable companies are getting it in standard def. it seems. I know Time Warner outside of the Pac 12 areas for sure is only offering it in standard definition. It seems the same for Comcast from what I've seen. Since DirecTV isn't able to be segmented regionally to market Pac-12 to the west exclusively for HD, and their whole platform is spread nationally, it wouldn't surprise me if they too only offer it in standard definition.

    It's possible that if DirecTV gets all seven channels, that the national channel would be in HD, and the six regional channels would be in standard definition.
    They wouldn't use up that much HD bandwidth (seven channels worth) for just one conference, so there's no way they'll get all seven channels in HD.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2012 #795 of 1671
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    ATTENTION DIRECTV subscribers, who "MUST" have Pac-12 networks by Aug. 30th.

    Tomorrow (Wednesday) morning is when the weekly Sixto report is out.
    It should be out in the morning sometime.
    We'll definitely know just how close DirecTV is to getting this channel, from that report.
    If there's news about it being on a test channel (probable channel would be channel 626), then expect it to be announced and launched on or before Aug. 30th.

    If no news is in Sixto's report tomorrow about it being in testing (or no news on any test channel(s) for Pac-12), then it's probable that DirecTV won't have it launched by Aug. 30th.

    I would go off that news (tomorrow morning), if you definitely want the channel by Aug. 30th. If nothing is in that report, then call and schedule an appointment with your local cable company to come out and install on Aug. 29th or so. And then if no official news happens by then from DirecTV (by Aug. 29th), then go ahead and accept the "no-contract" install in your home from your cable company on the day they come to your home, and disconnect from DirecTV (if Pac-12 is a must by Aug. 30th for you).

    As they say, we'll see how much DirecTV values their sports loving customers.
    They're supposed to be the provider of all providers for sports coverage.
    But are they the provider of all providers for "YOUR" sports coverage.
    We'll soon find out, and probably by tomorrow morning.

    Hopefully DirecTV gets it done.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2012 #796 of 1671
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    Prediction: national network in HD all the time, regionals will show up "-1,2,etc" HD for games, otherwise SD full time regional for non game programming.
     
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    you said HD only for games on the regional network.
    for football/basketball games only?
    what about field hockey, volleyball, soccer, etc. ???
     
  19. Aug 21, 2012 #799 of 1671
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    So, who decides what games are important enough for HD? Soccer? Field Hockey? Water Polo? Track and Field? Volleyball? Handball? Wrestling? Baseball? Softball? Lacrosse? Tennis? Gymnastics? Swimming?

    These are all sports PAC12 plans to air, many of which weren't aired previously. The world does not revolve around just football and basketball, and I think that is the whole idea of the PAC12 Networks, they want to air a lot MORE than just football and basketball. With temp feeds for games of EVERY sport, (once all the seasons get going of course) you'll be on/off/on/off/on/off continuously with the HD feeds.

    Might as well leave it on as HD permanently. It doesn't make much sense to go SD and then turn it to HD every time a new live sporting events starts. Too much manual labor, and will cost DirecTV more time/money/effort vs. just turning up the channels in HD.
     
  20. Aug 21, 2012 #800 of 1671
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    Yep, and according to the Pac-12 (and all their press releases), they plan to air 850 live sporting events the first school year (2012-2013 school year, fall, winter, and spring season).

    Of those 850 live events, 150 of them are football and basketball, and the other 700 events aired will be "Olympics sports" (volleyball, soccer, field hockey, water polo, baseball, softball, lacrosse, etc).

    But if they are truly "Olympics Sports", then where's fencing? Where's equestrian? Where's Pac-12 badminton? Where's ping pong or table tennis as its called? What about Pac-12 archery? Pac-12 rowing?
    And what about Pac-12 canoe and kayak? Pac-12 judo? Pac-12 taekwondo? Pac-12 pentathlon? Pac-12 skeet shooting? Pac-12 synchronized swimming? Pac-12 trampoline?
    Pac-12 weightlifting? Pac-12 triathlon? Pac-12 sailing? Pac-12 rhythmic gymnastics? Pac-12 boxing?

    And especially Pac-12 beach volleyball in the sand (California girls, they should totally have that as a sport in the Pac-12, I mean cmon, right?)

    Most of the nation would rather see Pac-12 beach volleyball than Ivy League beach volleyball. I think that would be almost unanimous.

    If they have all this programming on, then just seven networks for the conference won't be enough. They would need to have seven networks for each SCHOOL. That's a lot of Olympics sports.

    But no, the Pac-12 will only have a "few" of the Olympics sports.
    I called Larry Scott, and he said with a definitive answer that they will not have equestrian, archery, or canoe/kayak as a sport in the Pac-12.
    He guaranteed it.
     
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