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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Aug 24, 2012 #941 of 1671
    oklahoma258

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    Does anyone have any idea when the Pac-12 Network channels will actually be on Directv (a day or time?)?
     
  2. Aug 24, 2012 #942 of 1671
    tonyd79

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    The only people who have any idea of that at all are on the negogiation teams. And they ain't talking.
     
  3. Aug 24, 2012 #943 of 1671
    Sandra

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    If they're still in negotiations, they probably don't know at this point either.


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  4. Aug 24, 2012 #944 of 1671
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    Well... I get the sense that DirecTV really WANTS the channels, and is working to make it happen one way or another, but they want to make sure they pay the right price.

    DirecTV is known for its last-minute negotiations. Another thing to note in all this is that the price is usually per viewer. With DirecTV, it is either 20 million, or not 20 million, where with cable companies they could negotiate for just the in-market areas, and just access to a limited number of channels.... there is just a bit more to consider. That said, I agree they should have already come to an agreement. Obviously DirecTV is focussed on football as the money maker, causing me to miss some Field Hockey games, but I believe that they should have launched the channels on August 15th, so from the beginning.
     
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    At this point, with 15 months since launch date and discussions I think both sides know where each other stands. It's just a matter of how bad either of them wants to do the deal.

    If Directv does not come to terms by the 1st game they will lose customers and for each day that they fail to do a deal they'll lose more customers. That's the reality, not to mention that they better staff their call site well over Labor Day weekend to get all the complaints they know they'll get.

    The ball is clearly in Directv's court to make a decision right now.


     
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    kick4fun

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    AMEN..

    Every school is supposed to get $30 million a year, so yes all these intangibles are impacted. Hope it gets done.
     
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  11. Aug 24, 2012 #951 of 1671
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    I agree with your first two paragraphs, but not your last sentence. Both sides know where the other stands, and DirecTV will lose customers if they do not carry the PAC 12 network. I expect that the item that is still in dispute is exactly how much DirecTV is expected to, versus is willing to, pay to carry the networks.

    From DirecTV's perspective this is a huge committment of resources - seven CONUS HD slots for channels that will have marginal draw east of the Rockies. I am sure DirecTV has already calculated where the break-even point is for them. The more they have to pay for the channels, the more customers they can afford to lose by not carrying the chanels. I do not think DirecTV can make money on this deal. It is just a matter of whether they will lose less by paying the PAC 12 what it wants or by losing customers in the PAC 12 territory because they do not carry the channels.

    Whether they can gain (or retain) more customers by using the CONUS HD slots for other programming versus committing those slots to a conference that has, in recent times, been not much more than a mid-major when it comes to sports that people outside of the PAC 12 territory will actually watch (one team in the NCAA men's basketball tournament in 2012, and how many years since a BCS football championship?).

    I really think the ball is in the PAC 12's court. If the PAC 12 would have allowed DirecTV to carry the channels for a reasonable (to DirecTV) fee, the channels would have been up already.
     
  12. Aug 24, 2012 #952 of 1671
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    I just hope it's "WHEN", and not "IF".

    As a UCLA alum replanted in ME, PAC8... (+4 ex-WAC'ish-castoffs) broadcasts east of the Catskills (actually east of the Rockies) are few and far between.
    Coverage much like the NFL weekly highlights while in England in the late-80's hosted by (retired PK) Nick Mike-Mayer at 3AM GMT.

    I've gone to four different SuperBowls, though all before the multiple "X" era.
    The amounts I paid for admission were $10 twice, $20 once, and $25 once.
    In the days of < $100 face value tickets, so not nearly as underpriced in comparison to today's market.
    The main reason they were so cheap?
    This was the price as soon as the opening kickoff got off.

    I suspect that DirecTV is waiting for the PAC12 network opening kickoff, knowing that the price of a ticket is going to freefall...
     
  13. Aug 24, 2012 #953 of 1671
    kick4fun

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    Ya, they are missing OSU, UCLA and Arizona St. ....

    Crazy.. Can't show all 12 teams unless they get the Pac 12 Network.. FOOLS
     
  14. Aug 24, 2012 #954 of 1671
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    I hope you're right...
     
  15. Aug 24, 2012 #955 of 1671
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    The price for every distributor is the same no matter what. If DirecTV doesn't have this by Labor Day, then we will never see it.
     
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    Technically, home teams own the TV rights in college sports, so if Cal were playing at Virginia Tech, the game *could* be on Gameplan. Or, if the game were an out of region ABC or ESPN telecast, even if it were a PAC 12 conference game.
     
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    That's an ad for Gameplan, not for college sports...
     
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    I doubt that either half of your statement is true, but if the first half is true on a per customer basis, then you are correct that we will never see the PAC 12 on DirecTV. A cable company that is serving a city in PAC 12 territory should (and will be willing to) pay more per customer to carry the PAC 12 channels, because a higher percentage of their viewers will want to watch compared to the percentage of DirecTV (or Dish) customers who care about the PAC 12.

    I think that might be where the sticking point is. The PAC 12 probably does expect DirecTV to pay the same rate per customer that the cable company that serves Los Angeles is paying, and DirecTV is not going to do that, because at least 80% of DirecTV's customer base has no interest in the PAC 12.
     
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    You have to admit that if you don't know any better and go to the page you might think you could see a lot of PAC-12 games.
     
  20. Aug 24, 2012 #960 of 1671
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    The price PAC12 ASKS may be the same, but every tv outlet negotiates differently. This is one of the reasons why terms are never disclosed once the deals are finalized.
     
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