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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. fleckrj

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    It seems to me that if the PAC 12 wants DirecTV to carry all 7 channels or nothing, then the PAC 12 should be paying DirecTV, and not the other way around. Yes, the one national plus six regional network model was set in stone by the PAC 12, but until they can fill all seven channels with programming that is not duplicated, why should DirecTV pay to carry more than the national channel.

    The PAC 12 designed their product to be regional based, but DirecTV is not a regional carrier.

    As far as the lack of testing, all we know for certain is that it is not in testing in HD. Sixto does not check the SD tests.
     
  2. mattgwyther

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    Have you looked above 620 in the program guide lately? ALL RSNs show repeats and duplicated programs. Just look at FSN-(your region) during college footballs season, there are 20 channels playing the same 2-3 football games with the only different being the commercials.

    The PAC-12 has adopted that same model only instead of sharing the profits with NewsCorp they are returning it to the institutions.

    This deal will get done. Larry Scott and the PAC-12 need it, DirecTV needs it. Again they are just in a game of chicken to see who blinks first and at what cost.
     
  3. maartena

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    Dude.... you should learn to relax a little more. :D
     
  4. iceturkee

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    and if you read the fine print, it would have showed how many hours or days ago the story ran. bill reilly's treat was more recent.
     
  5. WebTraveler

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    Dude, looks like in your next three rapid posts you are the one w/tears all over the place. Lay off...if you don't want to read it then don't. Move on pal.
     
  6. WebTraveler

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    I agree w/you. That Pacific Takes "article" is a fraud and nothing more than the theories of a bunch of guys here w/no real knowledge of anything.



     
  7. maartena

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    Wilner is a COLLEGE SPORTS blogger, not a Swanni clone. Due to his sports journalism, he has sources within PAC12 that have fed him some information. He has gotten no information whatsoever from DirecTV.

    The same is true for the ESPN Radio host Bill Riley. He is a SPORTS commentator, and has his connections with PAC12.

    DirecTV has not leaked any information. If any information was leaked, it was PAC12 leaking it to some of their sports connections, connections they have had for many many years. You don't really believe that sports writers all over sudden got an "in" with a television distributor they never had to deal with before, right?
     
  8. maartena

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    Probably too late. People who wanted 100% assurance that the network is there on Thursday will have to have cable installed by Wednesday. Not much time left, going to be hard to find a time slot for an installer to come.

    Procrastination will get its revenge. :D
     
  9. maartena

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    I don't think there is much chance of that. One of the reasons Netflix got so popular is because it ISN'T live. It is a model that works very well for TV series and movies, and they just have to plan out bandwidth for average use. Their content often appears months after it has been on television (for TV series) or the theater.

    That is something that is a lot harder to do with sports. No one is going to pay a netflix type fee to see the Yankees @ Boston game from May in August.

    There are live services available for the major leagues, such as MLB.tv and whatnot. PAC12 is also going to do online streaming, but you still need a television provider subscription for that. TV providers don't want the internet becoming a replacement, so they tie that in to deals. NBC did the same with the Olympics, they paid for the sports rights, they want some assurances their viewers are paying a provider who in turn pays them carriage fees.

    The Netflix model just doesn't work for live sports. If Netflix doesn't work because of too many users, people will just go: Oh well, we'll try again in an hour. If a sports equivalent doesn't work during the Bears @ Cowboys game because of too many users, there will be hell breaking loose. :D
     
  10. espnjason

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    I could make the same arguments about DirecTV not being a sports leader because they don't have CSN-Philly (which carries the Flyers, Sixers, Phillies, Big 5 Basketball alongsides TCN, Eagles Pre and postgame, and all the Philly sports shows that are unmatched anywhere else) but then again I have a tendency to look at things more objectively. At this point, I could get virtually every out-of-market game in the respective subscription package in HD except for Gameplan (which I don't subscribe and isn't all in HD to start with). And because of DirecTV, I was turned on to international soccer and rugby that I really couldn't get anywhere else.

    Is there room for improvement? Certainly.

    But having a niche focus on college-specific channels would change an entire paradigm of RSNs as we know it. And in my opinion, DirecTV is at a critical fork in the road since whatever DirecTV does effects all concerned subscribers in the U.S. and not just pockets of areas served by cable. How could DirecTV justify the cost and resources of carrying seven channels when the respective cable companies would only have the convenience of carrying two? Same goes for all the RSNs people tend to not think much aside from their own because they want more basic HD.

    If the Pac-12 is not going to budge on DirecTV having to carry all seven channels then I strongly suspect D* would find a way to make money off of it.

    The Pac-12 boosters and donors threw a fit at their respective schools because beIN Sport was willing to pay to get on DirecTV faster than the Pac-12 ever could. Perhaps if the Pac-12 could negotiate a lower rate or provide a subsidy for the bandwidth efficiency improvements on the D* satellites, they could have all seven on DirecTV.
     
  11. JMCecil

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    Yes please look at Netflix and Hulu+ and Vudu etc...

    Netflix is struggling and will continue to lose content to distributor specific providers. Hulu and Vudu (especially Vudu) can barely keep the doors open. And, will also continue to lose content to the media owners own systems.

    They are convenient for the users, but they are not money generators for the content owners. In many cases the streaming content has become an impediment to negotiations of much more lucrative delivery models.

    In other words it will be a long time before sports streaming generates enough revenue to replace the current distribution model. So, there is no incentive for the content owners to support streaming. In fact there is value dilution that expressly tells them its a bad idea.
     
  12. tonyd79

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    Ask Viacom about that. Hurt them in deal with directv.
     
  13. kick4fun

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    While waiting to see if Directv negotiates with PAC 12, just found out my in-laws in Seattle have Comcast. YEAH! I can now watch Pac12 via the internet streaming.
    GO COUGS!
     
  14. JMCecil

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    yeah, good current example of value dilution.

    Obviously as a consumer the streaming model favors me. But, I recognize that it does not favor the content owners nor the distributors (Yet).
     
  15. tonyd79

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    Good for you! That gives you some breathing room.
     
  16. sdpadres

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    @PAC12Insider says deal with DirecTV is close. $14.99 a month. Are they crazy?
     
  17. Fog627

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    IF that is correct, it is the same price that DirecTV charges for Fox Soccer Plus. Are they crazy? For me...YES!! I am a huge soccer fan but will not pay for FS+. I am a PAC-12 fan but will not pay $14.99/mo.

    I would love to have the PAC-12 Network, but not at an additional cost. I already have the Sports Pack and hope to have it included there.
     
  18. tonyd79

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    That would be a non starter for me.

    It would tell me that the PAC 12 wants too much for a seven channel model. Cutting off noses to spite their face. Hope it is not true price wise.
     
  19. DC_SnDvl

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    For me the PAC12 games are the only reason I have subscribed to the sports pack. If the PAC12 games are no longer in the sports pack I don't have a reason to keep it. My local RSNs carry just about all of the non PAC12 content. I can just deduct the 14.99 per month from my SunDevil Club contribution.
     
  20. tonyd79

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    And tell them why.
     
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