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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. maartena

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    Another big factor in it all though will still be sports bars. They are DirecTV's bread and butter on the business side of things, and they are going to want to show all football games.

    On twitter, I see a LOT of Dish customers saying they will switch to DirecTV if they carry PAC12. But then.... many here have made the "if/not/switch" threat, and not actually do it even when football starts tomorrow.
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Important football games aren't played at the same time as important basketball games 99.9999% of the time. And the odds of the same school or the same school pairing? Highly dubious. If they can't schedule around the two school pairings, they should give up their college degrees.

    And yet BTN manages all of this with one channel an parttime overflows.....
     
  3. TheRatPatrol

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    Maybe Mike White meant they wouldn't carry 7 full time channels, but wants to carry game only channels instead, and that's where the hang up is?
     
  4. tonyd79

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    PAC 12 keeps claiming they are using the BTN model as a guide but they don't at all. I am sure the DirecTV was expecting to use the BTN model. But what do you expect from a model suggested and developed by Comcast?
     
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    Funny you bring up sports bars, I am in one now. They have 7 locations, each 30+ TVs, 8 separate boxes, plus every sports pack. They are furious that there is no Pac12 channel yet. Their core audience is Pac12 and Univ of NV fans. You can imagine their monthly bills. Losing customers like them would really cut into the profit line.
     
  6. donm

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    Source: No deal between the Pac-12 and DirecTV this week. (Trying to get info on other providers.)
     
  7. donm

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    I think Directv doesn't worry that much about losing them because there really isn't anybody else to provide the sports.
     
  8. tonyd79

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    A sports bar in, say, LA, may have to add a cable connection for PAC 12 for the time being, but no cable company is going to provide all the other sports that bars with large systems will want to put on.

    That is a point I have been making. When the alternatives don't provide the solutions either, how does DirecTV lose business?

    Some yes. Large amounts, no.
     
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    DirecTV isn't going to lose any sports bars. They aren't worried about that. DirecTV has the most sports in HD and the big key...Sunday Ticket.
     
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    Sources: No deal between the Pac-12 and DirecTV this week.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    If they have dish, they are not sports fans.
     
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    Not all sports fans require every single sports channel available.
     
  13. Mariah2014

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    Sounds like it could be awhile. Here is their response to someone's question. This is the first time I have seen this response from them.
     
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    TWCCable in the Los Angeles area offers MLB Extra Innings, NBA League Pass, NHL Center Ice, MLS Direct Kick, and ESPN Full Court. They also offer PAC12.

    It could become very interesting if TWC offers sports bars a nice fat sports package for sports bars. They would only have to retain DirecTV for NFL Sunday Ticket at that point. If they can get a better deal with TWC even with DirecTV still for NFL Sunday Ticket only, that could pull some sports bars over the edge.

    This would be even more interesting when TWC Sportsnet Los Angeles isn't picked up by DirecTV. It wouldn't be "some" anymore by that point if the PAC12 deal is still up in the air as well.
     
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    Indeed. They have been promising updated "closer to the when the school year starts" and then "when the school year starts" and then..... quiet.

    This response tells me that you WILL NOT get PAC12 this weekend.

    So, time to follow through with the "I will switch" threats. Don't let the wives overrule you! :D
     
  16. DCSholtis

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    Saw a tweet by Wilner that stated that talks progressed this week until D* decided there wasn't enough interest in Week 1's games. He also thinks this opens things up for Dish to make a deal (I laughed when I saw that tweet)
     
  17. Mariah2014

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    Directv will likely be the first carrier in this area to carry the station. CSN NW isn't any carrier here either. I would say the first two weeks games won't be available. The 9/13 is probably the soonest we will see the station and that is starting to look a bit iffy now too.
     
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    Many people are fans of just local teams. Dish had Fox Sport West and Prime Ticket, and thus all USC/UCLA games for instance, and the same was true for other universities. I think many people are quite happy with LOCAL sports. Dish subscribers are now losing that local sports, and it doesn't look good for DirecTV either.

    I am thinking DirecTV is sticking to their guns, and is trying the Viacom approach: Show the television world they are NOT to be messed with, and you can't just ask a price and expect to get it. This will also definitly send a message to TWC, who are up NEXT for carriage of their two new TWC Sportsnet networks.

    I'm inclined to believe the "not this week" rumors might be true.
     
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    That would be Dish who has game time HD channels? And missing a lot of RSNs across the country.

    Not sports fans.

    People who only watch local teams are not sports fans.
     
  20. maartena

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    You are completely missing the point. Whether they are sports fans is not the issue, and I doubt anyone would care whether a Dish subscriber who previously watched there PAC12 sports on Fox Sports West is a "sports fan" or not. No one cares, and it isn't even worth discussion.

    Point is, Dish subscribers too, just like DirecTV Network will lose their local universities football games. On top of that, Dish is currently in dispute with Big Ten, right before the football season starts. DirecTV has a pretty nice opportunity here to reel in Dish customers.

    All I am saying is that Dish customers have been saying they will switch to DirecTV if they carry PAC12. But hey, the Twitter world is rather volatile of course.
     
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