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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by sticketfan, May 18, 2012.

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  1. mreposter

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    So Directv should just send you the bill for whatever the Pac-12 demands, eh? I hope you have plenty of money in your bank account...
     
  2. donm

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  3. maartena

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    I would take it with a grain of salt.... so far, other things that have been posted in the comments section of that blog haven't turned out to be true AT ALL, so it could be anyone saying that.

    It is definitely not a situation PAC12 was hoping for and certainly not what it had in mind when launching 7 channels.

    For me PERSONALLY, I could probably live with the online access option. I would much rather just have the networks, so I can tune in to the Norcal network for Field Hockey, but online would be acceptable.

    But it would suck for basketball fans, and the online streaming really doesn't work for sports bars. But then, they probably only care about football anyways.

    Have the cards all been played? I don't know.... But with this option, cable carriers still have the advantage, as within the PAC12 footprint they are all at least carrying 2 channels, plus offer online access.

    Something else interesting though: Even if you have a cable provider, it doesn't mean you can access PAC12 online. If the national channel isn't carried by your local affiliate, you can still not access the content online. That is really disappointing for fans out-of-market.
     
  4. TJNash

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    This "take it or leave it deal" from the comment of a certain "OT" below the Wilner blog entry is a work of fiction from an infamous poster on certain soccer boards who is always wrong. Always. If he says today is Thursday, do not believe him.
     
  5. mws192

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    I would think the end result will be something similar, but maybe Choice instead of Choice Xtra and maybe conference bball games thrown in as overflow worthy.

    I would expect similar changes for the BTN when that deal is up....
     
  6. tonyd79

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    If they take this deal, you would still get a lot live. The national channel will have live events with those playing at the same time replayed later.

    I think they would also turn the channels on for more than football. They actually turn the BTN alternates on for any live event BTN puts out there which isnt as much as the PAC 12 seems to be heading for but precedent is already set.

    This may not be fact but I can believe that is where we are. As I said from the start, the PAC 12 built a plan for cable without thought of how satellite actually works. If this is true, their shortsightedness is coming home to roost.
     
  7. maartena

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    From reading his other comments, he really does sound like a DirecTV fanboy and/or troll. Doesn't mean he isn't right, but I would take it with a very large grain of salt.
     
  8. kick4fun

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    You're probably right.. No one knows, but damn Pac12 networks made me feel last year this was gonna happen. I bet Directv made some offer and Pac12 balked. LAME
     
  9. maartena

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    Thing is... PAC12 didn't set out to be a "football" or "basketball" TV station, they set out to cover ALL sports. And it is understandable that they would like to have all networks carried. On the other hand, DirecTV's bandwidth isn't unlimited either.

    I still think carrying the 7 networks could be great for DirecTV, especially for those outside of the PAC12 footprint.

    Looks like both sides have dug in, and it is a matter of who blinks first. Knowing DirecTV, they aren't blinking anytime soon though, so I would be prepared for NO PAC12 Networks next weekend either.
     
  10. donm

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    I know the Pac 12 made it seem like there would be no problem. I went through this same thing with CSNW and Directv. The Blazers made it seem like there wouldn't be a problem and now it has been 3 + years with no CSNW on Directv and they are not even trying anymore.

    This is why I was super happy when they created the Pac 12 Network and got the Oregon Ducks off CSNW. I guess in the end it really might not make any difference. I do think there is a better chance Directv and The Pac 12 Network will make a deal.
     
  11. mws192

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    PAC-12 Network was created to make money by showcasing sports; not to showcase sports and also make money at it.

    The thing is, they are called non-revenue generating sports for a reason. The olympic sports are add-ons that very few are willing to up and leave over.

    Just look at the SEC, Big 12 and ACC expansions; it's all about football money, not volleyball or even basketball.
     
  12. fleckrj

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    For PAC 12 fans, the DirecTV statement does seem dismissive, but DirecTV is a national - not a regional - carrier. The PAC 12 network model was build around regional providers. For a national provider to be interested, there must be more games of national interest on the network. As it stands, almost every PAC 12 game with strong national interst will be broadcast on other networks.

    If DirecTV pays the PAC 12 what the PAC 12 wants, then DirecTV will lose a lot of money. There is no way they can "capitalize on this chance". DirecTV has determined how much money they will lose from PAC 12 fans who jump to cable versus how much money they will have to pay the PAC 12 to keep those fans. If it costs DirecTV more to keep the PAC 12 customers than DirecTV will lose if the PAC 12 customers leave, then DirecTV will not carry the PAC 12 network. If the PAC 12 will accept a lower fee or a different distribution model (a la the Big 10 model), then the cost to DirecTV will be less than the amount they will lose by not carrying the PAC 12 network. Only then does it make sense for DirecTV to add the PAC 12 network.

    The fact that there is no agreement makes me think that the PAC 12 is still asking for more money than DirecTV thinks they will lose if they do not carry the network. DirecTV is not going to offer more than they think they will lose by not carrying the network, so the ball is squarely in the PAC 12 court.
     
  13. kick4fun

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    I think you're right.. Maybe I've looked at this from the wrong perspective. This could have been run like the Big10 and maybe carry a regional overflow football game. Maybe even work it out to have the streaming option, but Pac12 is probably asking too much.
     
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    Yes I would. It means that much to me.
     
  15. iceturkee

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    at least, the picture online is better than what bright house is providing. and there is now an ipad app. so i guess that is how i will watch until dtv decides to add, if they ever do!
     
  16. donm

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    Same with me! I would pay the $250 because this also means that much to me.
     
  17. tonyd79

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    So far we have raised $750 for the PAC 12. We continue or forumathon after these words....
     
  18. maartena

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    Yeah I understand that. It's a shame that most sports fans don't look past football, but that is indeed where the revenue is.

    However, non-revenue sports will never become revenue sports without exposure first. Soccer is slowly becoming a revenue sport, and already is on the MLS level. A sports network like PAC12 gives access to sports that we didn't have access to before.

    For me, I don't care which university plays, I like watching Field Hockey. (My team won Gold (women) and Silver (men) in the Olympics. Now that is a sport that isn't likely to be even approaching status of revenue sport, never going to happen. I know this, and I don't care.

    On the other hand, I have the feeling it will cost DirecTV just PEANUTS more to host all the channels, as opposed to the rumored "national-only-with-football-on-the-side" plan. (the other sports are cheap, after all) So this may be closer to a bandwidth problem than a financial problem.
     
  19. buffs6236

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    i would pay the 250 this is just crap
     
  20. maartena

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    Would you move to a location that would cost you $100 more in rent or mortgage a month? (Does it mean THAT much to you, is really the question here). :D
     
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