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Moving - Semi-large install...advice?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by NiteOwl, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. NiteOwl

    NiteOwl Mentor

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    Greetings install gurus,

    I have been a DIRECTV customer going back to the USSB days. I have purchased a new home and need to set up service shortly. I am still in my current house and will be for 8 or so more weeks. I know the movers program will set up my new house for free, but I will stay behind in the old location while may family moves soon until the old house sells. A few questions:

    1. Would the easiest path be to go through the movers program for the new house and set up new service at my old house?
    2. I am 99% sure I will use a local specialist installer as my new house has a few challenges and I want a high quality install. If they are DIRECTV certified, they should get payment from DIRECTV for much to all of my install, I think? I assume I would need to pay for any wire fishes and the like?
    3. My current setup includes 2 HR20 w/esatas, 1 HR21, 1 HR22, and 1 HR24.
    4. No upgrades in 2 plus years, happy to sign the 2 year commitment so I plan to swap out the HR21 for the Genie.
    5. My new house will include at least 6 distinct viewing locations, possibly 7.
    6. One of the viewing locations is the carriage house, which is adjacent to the house, but not connected (Maybe 20' away).
    7. Should the carriage house be a wired location or could I get by with a client? My thought is to have a box out there that is not part of the whole house network per se. I want my guests to have DTV, but not necessarily access to my playlist.
    8. I could drop the HR22 as its really is just full of the kids recordings, which are easily replaceable. Better to have it and the 2 extra tuners or would a client suffice and actually perform at a higher level?
    9. For a couple of the locations, I am leaning towards the new wireless client, less wiring is good in my book. Any reason to stay away? I expect to have wireless signal issues as the house is 75 years old and has been added on a few times, so some interior brick walls that the wireless signal will need to penetrate. I have started to research wireless extenders, specifically looking at a D-Link plug-in version that seems pretty simple. Any other/better suggestions?
    10. I am planning on using Verizon FIOS for internet. Previous owner has FIOS for internet and TV, so the house should be an easy reconnect.
    11. Am I missing anything?

    Thanks in advance for any advice!
     
  2. dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

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    Most of this is better left to the experts, but I don't believe the wireless clients are in wide deployment yet. I'd stick to wired myself based on your description, regardless.
     
  3. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    1. depends.
    2. No, if you hire someone independently you assume all the costs. there is no such thing as DirecTV "certified"
    3. OK
    4. Good so far
    5. Awesome!
    6. Wow
    7. get an HD receiver and put a BSF inline
    8. Keep the HR22
    9. Run the wire. the Wireless clients run on its own "access point" you would need multiple of this and it will cost more money than to run the wire now
    10. agree
    11. run an Ethernet connection to where ever the Genie will be
     
  4. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Call and talk to DirecTV, see what they have to offer with the various options available. No way to know for sure which route would give you the best deal.

    I would go wired everyplace if that is at all possible. Clients still require a coax connection, except for the new C41W (which is not yet in general availability). For that to work in a separate building it would have to be part of your DECA network and share in whole home. The only way to isolate the carriage house from whole home is with a filter installed in the line to that location, and you would need to have either one of your HR2x units there, or an H2x receiver. A client can't be isolated from it's server (Genie).

    Adding the Genie will require you to go to SWM (if you are not already). That uses a single coax to each receiver/DVR/Genie (whether one, two, or five tuners). You currently have ten tuners (5 DVRs). Adding the Genie will take you to 15. There is an SWM16 multiswitch which can support a maximum of 16 tuners. Clients do not have their own tuners, they use one of the Genie tuners for live tv.

    What you might want to do is have a low-voltage contractor do all of the necessary wiring, bringing a coax from each room (tv location) back to a common central location. That is where the SWM16 would go. From there you will need four coax to the dish location. That's about the best way to get your internal wiring done if it requires custom work or wall fishing. I doubt you will get DirecTV to pay (or reimburse) for that, but you can always ask.
     

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