Moving Slimline from roof to Fascia....questions.

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  1. Soulweeper

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    But, correct me If I'm wrong, that's best when the pole isn't very high, correct? Anytime I've ever seen it that way, the dish isn't too far off the ground.
     
  2. Soulweeper

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    Ya know, now that is looking like a good way to go also. At first, I thought it was kind of obtrusive,to have that big arm and monopoles coming off my house under my eave, right in full view, but If I go over my patio cover like I would with the "box" system Randy mentioned, it would be out of sight, pretty much. One question I have about that is: would attaching the monopoles to my fascia, as opposed to under the eaves like they show in the ad, be secure enough, or would I be back to being concerned about any "flex" in the fascia?
    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/metalliholic06/DSCF1472.jpg

    Or, would I be better off doing the 'J' mount right here
    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/metalliholic06/DSCF1476.jpg
    on the first rafter tail, and it would look like this
    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/metalliholic06/51e3_3.jpg
    when I was done, because I have a gutter just like the one shown in that picture, and could mount the monopoles to the top of the fascia through the backside of the gutter, just like they did. I know I know, now I'm overthinking this. Both of these look strong, and Randy's idea would work well too, this is just real simple.
     
  3. randyk47

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    I don't think you're going to get much flex out of a 2" x 6". Obviously you can, and should, grab a hold of the section you're mounting to and literally jerk/shake it. If it moves easily or wiggles then you've probably got a problem. You could always beef up the attachment points by sistering a 2" x 4" across the backside of the fascia.
     
  4. Soulweeper

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    Very true.
     
  5. RobertE

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    If you go with the DTVUEM the dish could stay pretty much in the same place as it is now. No additional/rewiring should be needed. Only difference would be the main mast would be on the sideway vs the roof. I don't see a problem with the monopoles attaching to the 2x6. Especially if you hit a stud with the main mast foot.

    If you want to move it and go with this location

    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/metalliholic06/DSCF1476.jpg

    Then I would suggest using this mount instead:

    http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=KAUEM1

    This bolts directly to the rafter, you shouldn't need monopoles with it, but you could always add them latter if needed/wanted.
     
  6. tcusta00

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    Just out of curiosity - Why not just remount it on the roof? If you're the one doing it you know it will be done properly (i.e., no leaks) so why go to all the trouble and expense of buying one of these fancy mounting kits? Sure, there's a chance the roof could leak, but if done properly, the chances are slim.
     
  7. HDTVsportsfan

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    He may be without TV for a couple of weeks. He is doing the roof replacment himself. IIRC he's looking for either a temp solution until the roof is done or a permanent solution that does not require holes in his new roof.
     
  8. Soulweeper

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    Exactly! My original plan was to move it to my patio cover during the project, and then put it back, but since I don't have a meter, I would be best off having "D" come out (I think anyway)and aim it, which means I would pay them twice. So, since it can easily be moved ahead of time to a new permanent spot, it's the best way to go. Also, I can get whichever mount I get and mount it absolutely, perfectly plumb, and take my time doing it, and then when "D" comes out they will just drop it on the new(pre plumbed) mast, and aim it, and be done.
     
  9. tcusta00

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    Ah, I get it now. Sorry, bit thick today.
     
  10. Soulweeper

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    No problem........I am making a big deal out of it too haha. Actually,I just didn't realize there were these couple different brackets that people have posted links too, that will make it very simple, so it does give me a little more to think about.
     
  11. RobertE

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    In addition to the two other mounts I linked, you could always just leave it on top of your patio cover. It would probably be the least noticeable up there.
     
  12. Soulweeper

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    Well, you can't tell by looking, but that thing isn't extremely solid. Not that it will fall down, but it doesn't take a lot for it to move, so I'd be skeptical. Plus, we plan to modify it pretty soon. It was there when we bought the house.
     
  13. Soulweeper

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    I agree.......only reason I'd move it down and to the left a little is to hide that arm above my patio cover, and it wouldn't require additional cable, just a new hole, and patch the old one. That bracket isn't the worst thing I've seen, but it's definitely not attractive, so If I can hide it, why not.

    If you want to move it and go with this location

    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/metalliholic06/DSCF1476.jpg

    Then I would suggest using this mount instead:

    http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=KAUEM1

    This bolts directly to the rafter, you shouldn't need monopoles with it, but you could always add them latter if needed/wanted.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, that is my second choice. That bracket looks like it would be stout without the monopoles, but could easily be added inside the gutter, on the backside, like in this picture
    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...c06/51e3_3.jpg

    It would just put the dish in a lower spot, and some trees out in front of the house about 60 feet away or so, may be an issue. They are maybe 20 feet high, or a little more, so I don't know. I know the dish doesn't "face" the incoming signal, it bounces off..........I think you know what I mean, so I'm not sure what "angle" that signal comes from, hence those trees could very easily NOT be a problem. Hope that made sense.
     
  14. RobertE

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    Yes, that is my second choice. That bracket looks like it would be stout without the monopoles, but could easily be added inside the gutter, on the backside, like in this picture
    http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...c06/51e3_3.jpg

    It would just put the dish in a lower spot, and some trees out in front of the house about 60 feet away or so, amy be an issue. They are maybe 20 feet high, or a little more, so I don't know. I know the dish doesn't "face" the incoming signal, it bounces off..........I think you know what I mean, so I'm not sure what "angle" that signal comes from, hence those trees could very easily NOT be a problem. Hope that made sense.[/QUOTE]


    Time for a little trig. :grin:

    Your lowest sat is going to be the 99 at roughly 38 deg. Highest is the 119 at roughly 44 deg.

    So....

    Assuming the trees in question are 60 feet away, the trees can be no taller than 45 feet if the dish was placed on the ground. So, if the dish was 10 feet up, the trees could be no taller than 55 feet. I'd say your good with a very large margin of error.
     
  15. Soulweeper

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    Time for a little trig. :grin:

    Your lowest sat is going to be the 99 at roughly 38 deg. Highest is the 119 at roughly 44 deg.

    So....

    Assuming the trees in question are 60 feet away, the trees can be no taller than 45 feet if the dish was placed on the ground. So, if the dish was 10 feet up, the trees could be no taller than 55 feet. I'd say your good with a very large margin of error.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks! So, since I hated math, and it was my worst subject, based on what you're telling me, this tree that I forgot about that is exactly 52 feet away (and 20 feet tall), from where I might place the dish(10 feet off the ground), wouldn't be a problem either, correct?
    Oh yeah, those other trees are 82 feet away and MAYBE 25 feet tall, so sounds like I have no problem with those.
     
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