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MRV ever coming to our DVR's?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by rickeame, May 12, 2008.

  1. May 12, 2008 #21 of 101

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005

    And it always seemed that DirecTV would do nothing but simply sit there like Sgt. Carter on the old Gomer Pyle TV series with a response of

    “I can’t hearrrr youuuu!”

  2. May 12, 2008 #22 of 101

    glennb Hall Of Fame

    Sep 21, 2006
    What did you expect DirecTV to do ? -
    Plan an emergency board of directors meeting - Holy Sh*t ! Have you guys seen this petition on the directv/tivo forum ?!! We better do it or else !!! :lol:
  3. May 12, 2008 #23 of 101

    jodyguercio Active Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Ok heres my .01 on the matter..... would you rather Directv rush MRV to us all and then have nothing but problems or work into it slowly as they have started to do in the last few CE releases?

    How quickly we all forget how many of us were unhappy with the HR2x series when Directv brought it out. This doesnt work, it missed this show, this show recorded with a blank screen. Some people are still expierencing these problems but they are becoming fewer and further between.

    Me personally I wuold rather have something that is rock solid and has been tested by users a la CE program than something deemed suitable for use by someone else who is just meeting a deadline......

    Comment away.
  4. May 12, 2008 #24 of 101

    bruinfever Godfather

    Jul 19, 2007
    The only thing I wonder is why they haven't put their MAIN focus on MRV..Is there any feature that you currently have on your HR2* that you would prefer over MRV? DoD, Mediashare are great and I'm happy to have them..But they don't even come close to MRV...
  5. May 12, 2008 #25 of 101
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Jodyguercio makes a point. We all want this feature but of course we want it solid.

    HD-MRV isn't as easy as a couple of code changes. If it were, well, it would be done by now. Believe me when I tell you, the people on this forum aren't the only ones excited by MRV. Our friends at DIRECTV feel the same way, but they want it to be right. Hundreds of thousands of DVR users are potentially affected. It's got to be great.
  6. May 12, 2008 #26 of 101

    Thaedron Hall Of Fame

    Jun 29, 2007
    We want it to be great AND very soon. (not just "soon")
  7. May 12, 2008 #27 of 101

    jodyguercio Active Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Because of the people that are still expierencing problems w/ basic dvr functions. They want to make sure the ENTIRE customer base is satisfied before they try and satisfy those of us that want advanced features such as MRV and other three letter acronyms....:)
  8. May 12, 2008 #28 of 101
    Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    Aug 15, 2002

    AS much as I would like MRV, I salute this attitude!
  9. May 12, 2008 #29 of 101

    Mark_R_G Cool Member

    May 11, 2008
    Ditto what the previous two guys said :)

    Not trying to start a debate here, but I think the one thing people are losing sight of is the HR series are fairly new and in some ways uncharted territory. Time is the only thing that's going to make these machines as foolproof as their predecessors were, and then they can focus on adding new features. To expect them to perform as well as retired hardware that had many years of time behind them already? Just isn't going to happen folks. And that's speaking from experience, I have a shiny new HR21 that's dead at the moment, hooked up right alongside vertiably ancient rca sd non-dvr boxes from waaay back that have performed more or less flawlessly.
  10. May 12, 2008 #30 of 101

    evan_s Hall Of Fame

    Mar 3, 2008
    Personally I have no interest in MRV other than the fact that they are doing PC viewing of content as a step towards it simply because I have a single receiver. I've found some of the other features you mention to be very useful. Media share has been great for viewing pictures from my wedding and of the Grand Canyon where we went on our honeymoon on the big HD Tv in the living room with lots of nice seating rather than crowding around my computer in the office with no extra seating around.

    I know there are plenty of people here who have multiple HD-DVRs but I have to wonder how many customers actually have all the requirements to make use of MRV. Multiple HD-DVRs with multiple of them networked may be a pretty small percentage of the over all subscriber base or even the HD-DVR subscriber base.
  11. May 12, 2008 #31 of 101

    sagle Cool Member

    Aug 23, 2006
  12. May 12, 2008 #32 of 101

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Oh I can maybe understand the go-slow approach for DirecTV not implementing high definition MRV on the HR20/21s until they sufficiently mature.

    But what I really find inexcusable when I look at the history of this issue. Is why there have been no multi-room sharing feature on any of DirecTV’s boxes over time up until now? For instance as glennb and I were just joking about. DirecTV had a totally workable MRV capability in their DirecTIVO units years ago, which they could have easily activated if they had wanted to as hackers proved.

    And I’m sure that TIVO could have provided a similar solution for networking the HR10-250s for Hi-Def sharing had DirecTV requested it as well.

    Yet in spite of all the pleading, cajoling, complaining, petitions, and even threats of class action lawsuits (if you can believe it). DirecTV stubbornly dug in their heels and refused to budge at all on MRV. Without ever giving an official reason as to why.

    It was the total failure of all this valiant effort to try and get DirecTV to move on this issue, where I finally became resigned to the view that they simply do not want to offer this feature for the foreseeable future.

    But I will wait and see what will happen with the HR20/21s. MRV, better very late than never I guess. :rolleyes:
  13. May 12, 2008 #33 of 101

    1948GG Icon

    Aug 4, 2007
    Since I have well over 3K MDU customers with Hr20's (currently just about wrapping up the last small communities with the MFH-2/SWM plant), the number of them with multiple (usually two) units is very high (>50%), and the number looking to network them is well over 90% of those (yes, they have been asked in several polls we've run; hopefully we won't be caught 'flatfooted' by needing networking skills, and in fact all our techs have those, both wired and wireless).

    So, it's not a 'techie' thing. In fact, why DirecTV seems to place so much emphasis on 'PC' connectivity is a mystery. Virtually NONE of our customers have any such plans in that area (< 1%). They want to network their DVR's. Nothing else.
  14. May 12, 2008 #34 of 101

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Did you miss what I posted above? MRV has been a centerpiece and key feature DirecTV has touted as coming for over 6 months now. That doesn't sound like someone that has never been enthusiastic about MRV. ;)

    Yea, they never brought the feature to the DirecTivo's. Why? Because it was so hackable and easy to extract the data to a PC which of course the content providers would have a fit with. DirecTV certainly didn't want to get sued by something a 3rd part vendor programmed/allowed. Now they control it themselves and they can "do it right" in their minds (meaning secure).

    But anyway, MRV is coming. One only needs to look at the recent conference calls to see that. :D
  15. May 12, 2008 #35 of 101

    OneOfOne Legend

    Sep 19, 2006
    mrv was easily implemented on the old tivo based dvrs. they could do lots of things as I can attest. the operating system was linux so the hacks had to come once the access was there. those boxes were and are awesome.
  16. May 12, 2008 #36 of 101

    jacmyoung Hall Of Fame

    Sep 8, 2006
    The conference calls said 2009/2010, that is about two years from now if you consider the usual delays.
  17. May 13, 2008 #37 of 101

    jmrwiseguy Mentor

    Jul 9, 2007
    I'm waiting for MRV before I make the jump to HD. My wife would kill me if we lost MRV from our current directivos. That feature is used every day because with 2 units, we schedule shows alot on the family-room receiver and then just watch them in our bedroom (or visa-versa).
  18. May 13, 2008 #38 of 101

    Bardman AllStar

    Apr 23, 2002
    I'm in the same boat in my house, adding kids into the mix. We've been completely spoiled by moving shows around the 4 Dtivos (3 subbed, 1 for "archive"). One of the subbed is dedicated to the kids and even my 6 year old can sit in the family room and pull shows from the Kids Dtivo to that unit and watch.

    I'd love to upgrade to HD as the unsubbbed unit sits in my theater with 96" FP projector and looks like cr@p watching shows off the Dtivo. When MRV (or whatever they call it) is enabled on these units, I'm probably going to have to get 4 just to keep similar functionality to what we have today (with much better PQ)
  19. May 14, 2008 #39 of 101

    EricRobins Godfather

    Feb 9, 2005
    I have had "literal" MRV for about 1.5 yrs. I have two DVR's in the same cabinet, each of which is wired to TVs in different rooms. This isn't rocket science (unlike tracking D11)! I am sure there are boat-loads of people with similar setups.

    Isn't this the definition of MULTI-ROOM VIEWING?

    If you really want MRV, then you can make it happen!

    Get off your lazy asses and stop complaining!
  20. May 14, 2008 #40 of 101

    JayB Legend

    Mar 19, 2007
    To me, this all comes down to which is first - MRV on the HR2x or the HDPC-20. If I get MRV first, I probably won't dive into the HDPC-20 (at least, not soon), but if I've got no MRV and the HDPC-20 is available (and since media center allows you to share programs between media center machines, which is effectively MRV), I'll dive right in day one with a couple of PCs to replace the HR20 and HR21 that I have.

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