Multiple hr54 instalation

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  1. Dec 8, 2019 #1 of 101
    Tritron

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    How to install 3 hr54. I got slim-3 dish installed recently I ordered swim-16 switch what I need to use 3 hr54 that 21 tunners . What elements i need to make it work ?
     
  2. Dec 8, 2019 #2 of 101
    P Smith

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    Only ONE HR54 or HS17 or HR44 allowed per ONE account !

    You must have three separate accounts to start such endeavor. [say you, your wife and your child]
     
  3. Dec 8, 2019 #3 of 101
    MysteryMan

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    The HR54 is a Genie. AT&T/DIRECTV only allows one Genie per account making your plan null and void.
     
  4. Dec 8, 2019 #4 of 101
    WestDC

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    As you can only activate one - You won't need a swim 16 all you need is PI-29 Connect the LNB to one side and the hR54 to IRD port -- That way you don't even need a spiltter - If you had a 2 way swm splitter - Hook the HR54 to port 1 and it will power the lnb

    You need Mini's or HD /HDDVR receivers then expand
     
  5. Dec 8, 2019 #5 of 101
    Tritron

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    Well I heard about few people having multiple hr54 active in account I may have two active in my account
     
  6. Dec 8, 2019 #6 of 101
    P Smith

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    NO. Only ONE HR54 per ONE account!
     
  7. Dec 8, 2019 #7 of 101
    P Smith

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    Please provide verified source of the rumors.
     
  8. Dec 8, 2019 #8 of 101
    HoTat2

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    While I suppose a SWiM LNB can be inferred from "a recently installed dish."

    I was going to suggest what you wrote, but wasn't sure as the OP could have an SL-3 legacy LNB installed on the dish.

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  9. Dec 8, 2019 #9 of 101
    HoTat2

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    Well I've heard from a few myself in the past, mainly participating in the CE program, that somehow managed to get at least two Genies activated on their accounts.

    Never knew how they did it, or if they still have it today. But do remember reading about it from their posts on the CE forum.

    Though this was definitely something special and out of the ordinary they were able to pull off at the time. ...

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  10. Dec 8, 2019 #10 of 101
    P Smith

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    I would imagine same ...
     
  11. Dec 8, 2019 #11 of 101
    James Long

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    Separate names would not be needed (unless you're trying to get "new customer discounts" on all three accounts).

    But now you have solved the "how to have more than one genie" problem (multiple accounts) ... do you have a solution on how to connect these multiple account genies to the same slim-3 dish? 21 tuners on a swim-16 switch seems to be a non-starter. (One of the reasons why two genies are not allowed on one account is that genies don't play well together. Three genies exceeds the tuner limit on this switch.)
     
  12. Dec 8, 2019 #12 of 101
    P Smith

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    the solution is simple - use three SWiM dishes (best solution as it will create separate MoCA networks server-clients from each other) or one DSWiM30 switch
     
  13. Dec 8, 2019 #13 of 101
    HoTat2

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    Well a DSWiM LNB that supports up to 21 tuners could handle it of course ...

    But what I was told was that multiple Genies with clients don't play well together especially if their is a reboot on one or more of the Genies, its clients have difficulty finding the Genie they were previously assigned to. And either switch and connect to the wrong Genie or disconnect altogether.

    Which never really made any sense to me in that DISH found a way to make their clients always reconnect with their assigned Hoppers after a reboot in a multiple Hopper installation.

    So why couldn't DIRECTV ever figure-out (or "want to") do the same for theirs?

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  14. Dec 8, 2019 #14 of 101
    P Smith

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    perhaps no one left in SW Dept who could lead such development … and he will need a team of coders
     
  15. Dec 8, 2019 #15 of 101
    slice1900

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    People in the CE program were allowed to have more than one on their account, but that ended with the HS17 - even people in the CE program who went to the HS17 had to live with the restriction of having only the HS17 on their account and nothing else other than clients.
     
  16. Dec 8, 2019 #16 of 101
    James Long

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    Makes sense. Testing goes better when 100% of usage is on the test environment (no "backup" equipment that gets used instead of the test environment). They could test for the interaction between multiple genies, but if multiple genies are not allowed in production environments the value of those tests would be limited. (My only thought would be poorly wired MDU environments where someone was trying to connect genies in different units to the same dish. The correct MDU wiring would avoid problems.)
     
  17. Dec 8, 2019 #17 of 101
    texasbrit

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    It's not a rumor. There were several people in the CE program who were asked to test out multiple Genies on a single account (up to 4, with the SWM30). Everything worked OK until one of the attached clients was disconnected, or one of the Genies was rebooted for some reason. When the system came back up, the Genies and clients could not work out which client should be attached to which Genie, and as HoTat posted, sometimes a client did not connect at all, and you had to close everything down and start again. FYI the HS17 would probably not suffer this problem if you were allowed to connect multiple HS17s, because the HS17 knows which clients it has been allocated. But I think Directv has decided its not worth the trouble, for the small number of people that would do it.
     
  18. Dec 9, 2019 #18 of 101
    Tritron

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    What equipment I need to use two hr44 and hr55
     
  19. Dec 9, 2019 #19 of 101
    WestDC

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    Get a RB LNB - that will enable future 4K when needed it will allow 22 SWm Channel (1) for the Guide on single wire -Hr44 =5 tumers Hr54 =7 tuners -- Room to spare --a 2 way swm splitter -Hook the 54 to port one and the 44 to port 2 (the 54) will power the LNB -without a separate power supply.

    Then See if you can both activated -when you call in.
     
  20. Dec 9, 2019 #20 of 101
    litzdog911

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    There's no such thing as an HR55.

    What exactly are you trying to do? As has been repeatedly pointed out you will not be able to activate more than one Genie DVR per account. Are you planning to create multiple accounts?
     

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