I just signed up for DirecTV installation. Interesting run so far, let's see how it turns out. Installer is coming Tuesday, and bringing **BOTH** HR-20 and HR-21 models, so that my wife and I can choose. If it weren't for the OTA thing, I'd pick the HR-21 in a heartbeat. As I understand, the only other real difference is recording time, yes? (not sure HOW LARGE a hard drive difference) I'd prefer black, too. I would really like the HR-21 PRO model, but couldn't swing the large costs that wouldn't be included in a new installation deal. In Alaska, though, I think we only get PBS and ABC in HD from DirecTV right now. (still get them from D* in SD) On my current antenna, I also get NBC-HD and CW-HD, so I guess if I go with the HR-21 I'd be losing those channels in HD. (or, I guess I could switch the TV input to antenna when I want to watch those, but it's annoying to not have it all integrated into one unit) I just moved to Alaska, was a previous DirecTV user in my last house, and have been shopping between Dish and DirecTV's Mover's Advantage, since I moved. My D* service was suspended while moving. Well, while I was moving into my house, unpacking, etc, (which took a while) DirecTV apparently decided to just restart my service, even though I contacted them telling them not to, because I wasn't ready yet. They charged me several months, before I figured out that they had. Nice... called D*, and they took off the charges. So, in shopping around, D* customer retention first offered me two HR-21's for $99 plus $19.95 shipping and handling, $10/mo off the bill for 12 months, and 3 months of Starz and Showtime for free. Not bad. I called back to check on the deal and probably take it, and the 2nd retention rep said NO, the deal wasn't $99, it was $199 plus the other stuff. Not as good, so I continued shopping. Called back to check one last time, and the new rep tells me, "oh yeah... we don't even offer DirecTV service in your zip code. Sorry, we'll cancel your DirecTV account." Okay, whatever... that makes it clear. So talking to a local installer, Dish had some equipment costs, but they're installing DirecTV in my house now for $217.95, with two HR-21's, two dishes, (Alaska) two SWM switchers, and all hardware. I get an instant $99 rebate, $20 rebate if I sign up for paperless billing, and ***$28*** off the monthly bill for a year. Still get the 3 free months of Starz and Showtime. Wow, much better deal! Let's hope it all turns out okay on Tuesday! I'm open to input on the HR-20 vs. HR-21, from you guys.