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NASCAR HotPass 08

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by dogs31, Dec 15, 2007.

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  1. Feb 4, 2008 #121 of 167
    Satelliteracer

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    All sports subscriptions are final once the season starts. There are a few very simple reasons why. Number one, those revenues are often split with the leagues.

    Secondly, and this was learned by distributers and the leagues years ago, if you didn't have this policy here's what used to happen about 13 or 14 years ago. Fan of Team Y is all fired up, the season starts and low and behold their star quarterback breaks his leg week 2....season over. Fan wants to now cancel to get pro-rated rest of season back because he's not interested in watching his team any longer.

    Sorry, but it cannot work that way. Now, NASCAR was a bit different because it was the first year of the product, but it doesn't take away the contractual obligations.


    By the way, ever wonder if calls are placed to D* when a boxer goes down in round 1 and fans asking for a refund? Do you think D* gets a refund from Don King? :nono2: Yet D* certainly gets those calls too.


    So the policies were put in place by the leagues and the distributors that were clear cut and straight forward. Once the season starts, there are no refunds. It's to protect the leagues, the distributors and quite frankly the fans that paying in full so the following year prices can remain relatively constant.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2008 #122 of 167
    SPACEMAKER

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    But we will still get the driver audio during commercials on the driver channels as well as a small live picture during network commercials, right?
     
  3. Feb 4, 2008 #123 of 167
    rotomike

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    My question is this, In our area some people have no hi-def locals at all and cant get them. So that means no nascar in hi-def. If they subscribe to hotpass will they get it in hi-def? also they will see the national feed but can they choose to see just that or do the have to watch the split screens too. in other words will it benefit to go with hotpass if no HD networks?

    also I have no phone line because i use my cell phone. can i get hotpass somehow on just one receiver with no phone? order online or something? I heard you need the phone.

    Mike
     
  4. Feb 4, 2008 #124 of 167
    SPACEMAKER

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    They should be able to get the HD Hotpass with no problem.

    Also, I don't have a phone line hooked up and it's not a problem. If you want to order just call DirecTV on your cell phone.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2008 #125 of 167
    24Flames

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    I can't see them ever taking this away on the driver channels. I'd bet there be a mass cancellation of well over 50% of Hotpass subscribers if they ever took away driver audio during commercials on the driver channels.

    Hey, Satelliteracer, I assume since you haven't posted any updates re: the new 13 driver audio channel, you don't have any news either way as to whether we'll get driver audio during commercials?

    It will be a real shame if they can't figure out a way to continue driver audio during commercials. This really shouldn't even be an issue....assuming D* had employees in charge of hotpass who understood the importance of driver/team communications and at what times during the race (yellow flags/pit stops = tv commercials) it's most important to be listening in.
     
  6. Feb 4, 2008 #126 of 167
    rotomike

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    I realize they can get hotpass arent you limited to watching a driver and split screens or do they offer a HD channel for just the race too with no split screens.

    Mike
     
  7. Feb 5, 2008 #127 of 167
    Satelliteracer

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    That is my understanding...correct (unless something has changed that I'm not aware of)
     
  8. Feb 5, 2008 #128 of 167
    Herdfan

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    Teays...
    I do understand that 100%. I really do.

    However, with HP, there was some advertising that was to be kind, inaccurate. Specifically, Dale Jr. said we would hear EVERYTHING he and Tony Jr. said during the race. This was not the case in the beginning.

    So anyone who purchased the package relying in part on these expectations should have been given a refund. Yes, there were adjustments made as the season progressed and I don't want to reopen that can of worms.

    But what a lot of us thought we were purchasing was not what we were given. I have no dog in this hunt anymore because as I am in my 14th year as a D* customer and was able to get "other" credits to offset what I paid for HP, so I was made whole.

    My original point was for people to check it out BEFORE they commited to the season.
     
  9. Feb 5, 2008 #129 of 167
    Guttboy

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    Hi Folks....been debating getting HP.......will they offer some sort of a preview? I would KILL for a NON COMMERCIAL INTERRUPTION channel....does HP have that?

    I have been reading and looking on the D* site but cannot see exactly what goes on with HP.....

    BTW....the screen shots for driver audio were great! Am I to gather that you can watch another channel and get the audio from a driver? What would be nice is if you were watching the race on any other channel you could pull up the driver audio....

    Thanks for the help!
     
  10. Feb 5, 2008 #130 of 167
    rotomike

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    Hotpass will be free for the Daytona 500 just like last year so you can check it out. I dont think people know for sure but you probabbly will continue to see the race on a small screen in lower corner while you listen to commercial and see commercial on bigger screen.

    Mike
     
  11. Feb 5, 2008 #131 of 167
    SPACEMAKER

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    Yes. The 13 driver audio channel will be full screen HD showing the national broadcast.
     
  12. Feb 5, 2008 #132 of 167
    techdimwit

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    Well, sort of. Last season, when I was tuned to a specific driver's channel, I did see the commercial that was happening on the main (Fox, TNT, ESPN) channel in a small box, but I was also able to see and keep track of my driver's car throughout the commercial. As long as I couldn't hear the commercial and could keep up with the driver I'd chosen, I was happy. For me, the beauty of HP is the option to listen to audio between the driver and crew chief therefore avoiding the claptrap and non-stop talk of the main race channel. Worth every penny. Having it in HD will just be icing.

    Yes, as has been previously stated, there will be a free preview during Daytona.
     
  13. Feb 5, 2008 #133 of 167
    RAD

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    Is there going to be the audio delay between whats on the screen and what you hear this year? Last year I would listen to the driver audio and it wasn't matching the video, like the engine revving up leaving the pit was a couple seconds behind the car actually moving.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2008 #134 of 167
    toad57

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    It's delayed so they can push a button to attempt to eliminate the cusswords... kind of like they do for live radio broadcasts.

    I can understand their concern, but all my kids are grown - if the driver is saying the F-bomb I want to hear it.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2008 #135 of 167
    toad57

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    I've called to cancel my HP... I'll decide based on the D500 broadcast if I want to spend the money this year or not.

    I only have standard def... I'm curious to see if I have the 13 channels of team audio and it works during the commercial.

    I'm also interested to see if they provide a specific listing of the 13 audio channels - I have the Tivo-based DVRs (networked and modified for maximum features, of course!) and selected the appropriate "alternate audio 1" , "alternate audio 2", etc.

    Last year, there were only 3 audio sources per HP channel, so it was pretty easy to get the right one... I want to see how I would be selecting one of 13 driver audio channels with my "non-interactive" receivers.
     
  16. Feb 8, 2008 #136 of 167
    wmschultz

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    I was just modifying my programming and saw this on the bottom when I was done.

    NASCAR HotPass HD $0.00 / _2008 Included w/NASCAR HD

    I wonder when the $0.00 is going to change and the included is gone.

    Can you say Superfan?????????????
     
  17. Feb 8, 2008 #137 of 167
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    Nope. :D

    That is simply a code put on the account that tells the service to authorize the HD portion of HD NASCAR HotPass if HD access is present on the account.

    Since HotPass includes HD and SD, this is necessary.

    I'm assuming you saw that in the "recent activity" section?
     
  18. Feb 8, 2008 #138 of 167
    dogs31

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    IT is not delayed. You're thinking of NASCAR Trackpass.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2008 #139 of 167
    vollmey

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    It was delayed last year from Chicago race on, or maybe after the Chicago race. It was almost unwatchable and really after Football season started and never watched Hotpass again.

    It better not be delayed this year. If Jeff Gordon or whoever drops F* bombs, I want to hear it.

    I have not gone through this thread throughly, this delayed stuff is not going to be a problem is it?
     
  20. Feb 8, 2008 #140 of 167
    Kenwood

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    For $40...I might have renewed it. I felt last year was a total ripoff.
     
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