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NBC 2012 Olympics Coverage

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by gusmahler, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Aug 4, 2012 #481 of 578
    James Long

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    How many people does this affect? What is the television population of the mountain and pacific time zones? (If I read correctly, Eastern and Central are getting no change.)

    NBC will still be holding back selected events to be aired in prime time. While the additional delay for mountain and pacific time zones is part of the complaint, the embargo of selected events to create a prime time programming block seemed to be the prime complaint - and the west coast will still be waiting until their prime time to see events that ended much earlier in the day.

    It is a step ... but NBC is still protecting their bread and butter prime time.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2012 #482 of 578
    mrlqban

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    Prominent players? Yea right. Not even Phelps west coast fans had such a luck.
    And if you say that twitter had little to do with it how would you know? You dont. Yet you want us to believe social media had no impact.

    The point is that NBC can definitely accommodate live coverage on the west coast during the games, at least on their weekend and morning coverage. There is no excuse not to do it, and don't give me the Tenis finals bullcrap because its so far from being the highlight of the games.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2012 #483 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    I believe it's just under 20% of the country that lives in either the Mountain or Pacific time zone, so I'm guessing the television population is pretty similar.

    There's 2 different sets of complaints coming from Twitter. 1 is the one from everyone complaining about events being held for primetime. The other is only coming from the west coast about the 3 hour delays. What changed for this weekend has nothing to do with primetime. The big names like Bolt and Phelps and others that folks are upset are being held for primetime were never going to be a part of this weekend's afternoon shows. What got shown was a lot of tennis, some live diving (not the finals), some track & field events (live, but I don't believe it included the women's 100 meter final), beach volleyball is on live now, and not sure what else there was. That's what got shifted to live on the West coast. And if you think it's bullcrap about tennis, here's another Tweet from NBC Sports PR sent last night..
    NBC is not deaf to what's being said on Twitter. They're just not being reactionary to it (why should they be when viewership is as high as it is). Besides, if this was really about all the howling from the West coast, then why did they only change this weekend's times and not next Saturday (next Sunday I believe is already live to all time zones because of basketball)?

    Again, I don't live on the west coast so I can't speak to what that's like, but during the week is tough because of the Today Show. That I can understand. But the weekend (the afternoon coverage, primetime is a different story) probably should have been like this the whole way, especially with so many events covered live to the East coast on the weekends. Just seems weird they didn't decide on this until literally the night before. And yes, I still very much believe the change is more about the participants in the tennis than what's being said on Twitter.
     
  4. Aug 6, 2012 #484 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    Laxguy

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    Very interesting tidbit. Does that mean CBS is not going to bid much in the next round? ;) And that next round, though, is very far away, isn't it?
     
  6. Aug 6, 2012 #486 of 578
    scottp461

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    Well, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't, actually!

    I'm recording everything and watching on my DVR's ONLY. I check my scheduled recordings for the next day before I go to bed each night. I schedule pad for the end of each block, but nothing before. I just started watching the first Sunday's coverage yesterday.

    Well, I was unaware of the changes for the West Coast until about 12:45 pm yesterday. I lost the first 3 hours of coverage Saturday, but didn't know how much or why until after that time on Sunday. Saturday was nothing compared to Sunday; LITERALLY NOTHING recorded during the day on Sunday!!! Sunday's first recording was at 7 pm!

    Now, this was for NBC proper ONLY! All the other channels recorded fine. A TiVo Premiere XL is handling the OTA NBC coverage and the other channels are being recorded by 2 DirecTV DVR's. The TiVo's guide data simply didn't update soon enough! Would The DirecTV DVR's have handled it better; I don't know. I was able to recover from 11:17 am on, plus the 3 pm women's marathon (on a DirecTV DVR that was tuned to ch.4 (NBC) prior to this and scheduled at 12:47 pm Sunday).

    So, all you West Coast haters, some of us still got screwed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
     
  7. Aug 6, 2012 #487 of 578
    fluffybear

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    If I am not mistaken, the IOC will not be discussing TV rights again for the US until after South Korea hosts the winter games in 2018. Does sound like a long time off until you start to think about it..
     
  8. Aug 6, 2012 #488 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    Might be a little sooner than that. The reason they waited so long to have the bidding for the 2014-2016 Olympics (which occurred in 2011) was because the IOC was waiting for more favorable economic conditions in hopes of helping the bidding. I don't think they'll wait so late next time, so it's probably only about 5-6 years off before the next set of negotiations begins. Since Olympic hosts are awarded approximately 7 years in advance, they'll probably wait until after the 2024 host is decided (in 2017) and go from there.
     
  9. Aug 6, 2012 #489 of 578
    maartena

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    I don't buy the "Today Show" thing for one bit. It's 2 weeks out of every 2 years, and I am sure the Today Show hosts would love the 2 weeks off so they can watch some of the Olympics themselves, or NBC could have incorporated them in the broadcasts. Every other show on NBC (including e.g. Ellen which is rather popular) had to move, why couldn't they?

    That said, I am really happy about this weekend's coverage. I got up at 8, caught up the first 3 hours by zapping through things, and pretty much by 11 or so I was completely on "LIVE" and enjoyed it. Plus I could log on to facebook/twitter again without getting spoilers.

    Now, if only they would transmit the closing ceremony live.... but I am willing to bet they won't.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2012 #490 of 578
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  11. Aug 6, 2012 #491 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    London Olympics huge boost to NBC's 'Today' show

    Read the first few paragraphs of that and tell me you still don't buy it. The Today Show is one of the signature programs on NBC and is constantly battling with the other morning shows. The last thing Today needs is to go on hiatus and get wiped off the schedule for 2 weeks. Instead, they send the show to London and capitalize on the popularity of the Olympics and it looks like they're now blowing the competition out of the water. Looks like a pretty smart decision to me.

    And from what I know of Ellen, they don't have new episodes during the summer months to begin with. Even still, Ellen is not produced and distributed by NBC. It is a syndicated program, so it doesn't air across all of NBC like, say, The View does on ABC.

    I know you're upset (as are a lot of people) that NBC makes these business decisions as excuses to not deliver for their viewers. But they're not all based in stupidity without rhyme or reason. You may think it's ridiculous that NBC insists on having the Today Show during the Olympics, but from a business standpoint, they're trying to capitalize on the viewer surge they have during these 2 weeks so the show and the network can benefit from it. That's why it's a world of difference between that and Ellen.
     
  12. Aug 7, 2012 #492 of 578
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    Good points!

    And some of us just can't get enough of Al Roker.....

    :nono2:
     
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  14. Aug 7, 2012 #494 of 578
    mrlqban

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    Good Lord, 92 HD feeds all Live, look at the olympic matrix on that wall. Too bad this is overkill for most channels and we can't enjoy it like that. By the way, during the first week, extra live had an Olympic matrix channel showing like 16 feeds at once. I loved it but they shut it down after day 2! What happened?

    Let me tell you, I've enjoyed NBCSN coverage which is the best of all their networks for this suff, it has the best variety with full live events and even breaking between track n field and other events constantly during their morning schedule. This is much better than the previous Olympics. But again, too bad this is delayed for the west coast.
     
  15. Aug 7, 2012 #495 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    No it's not. NBC Sports Network (and all the NBC cable networks I believe) are live to both coasts. NBCSN doesn't have a separate West coast feed, especially during the Olympics. I don't live on the West coast, but I have a couple of friends who do that have been watching the NBCSN coverage at the same time I have. Please don't tell me you've become so jaded with NBC's coverage that you're assuming NBCSN is delayed out west. I think you should check that one again.
     
  16. Aug 7, 2012 #496 of 578
    Holydoc

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    My biggest complaint with NBC is the fact that they constantly skip showing us the final scores on events. For instance, they will show us the scores of the gymnastics all the way up to the last performance. When the last performance is over with, NBC will state something like "So-and-So needs an 18.1 to win the gold. All eyes are on the scoreboard." Then NBC will only show everyone looking at the scoreboard, but not the scoreboard. When the final score comes up, NBC will say something like "So-and-So wins silver." but does not show you what score caused this decision. So you do not know if the person got 18.0 or 14.0. This is such a let down.

    Personally I would love it, if NBC would split the screen and show the scoreboard and the athletes faces. This would let us at home know the results at the same time and feel the same emotions.

    Don't just show the emotions of the atheletes. Let me experience it!
     
  17. Aug 7, 2012 #497 of 578
    maartena

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    Again.... ratings and money overtake decency. I know NBC needs to grab as much money from this as they possibly can.... but again, having been born and raised in another country, and having seen the Olympics broadcast on other countries channels..... ALL other programming MOVED ASIDE for the Olympics.

    There was no "we need the ratings", there was no "we need more money", there was no television greed grab because that was the most important thing.... NO, there was just the fact that these were THE Olympics, and they needed to be brought to the people without as much interruption as possible.

    NBC's motivating factor is primarily greed. (And perhaps compounded by the fact they overpaid). Many other countries are more concerned about the Olympic Spirit. (But then, they probably also did not pay such extreme amounts of money.)

    NBC Apologists are always looking at merely one thing: Look at the ratings, thus money. They aren't concerned with the fact, not properly understand what the spirit of the Olympic games mean, and that, from a broadcast point of view, it is quite alright to have other programming move aside so you can bring the games to the people. LIVE.

    I'm glad they did so during the weekend, but they should do so every day. Not tape-delay it for three hours to the west coast.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2012 #498 of 578
    Quaker2001

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    I'm not trying to make excuses or apologies for NBC, but the fact is that they are a business and their primary concern is to their shareholders, not their viewers. That's what makes it different from other countries who, by and large, can more easily make decisions like the ones you'd like to see without hurting their financial interest. Don't tell me that NBC is obligated for the Olympic spirit to override smart financial decisions. Hate to tell you this, but it doesn't work that way.

    And if you think this is just an NBC thing, look back through history. In 1984, ABC famously couldn't get afternoon soaps moved to make way for all day coverage of the Olympics (that would be the Games of Los Angeles, so if there was ever a time for a network to have "Olympic spirit," that was it). CBS, when they had the Olympics, refused to go past 11pm on primetime because they didn't want to push back Letterman. And I don't even want to think what ESPN would do to an Olympics if it came during the middle of basketball season. This is EVERY network in the United States that operates like this. Way too many people are losing sight of the fact that NBC Sports Network and MSNBC and CNBC and Bravo and Telemundo and the specialty soccer/basketball channels, and of course all the streaming is shown to the entire country at the same time. Yet you're fixated on the 1 network that delays to the west coast and refuse to try and understand why these decisions are made and why NBC, as a business entity, needs to make them.
     
  19. Aug 7, 2012 #499 of 578
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    Apparently, USA Women's Volleyball is/has reached a premier status level as there is currently no live broadcast on any of the NBC TV outlets.

    Thank goodness NBC is holding this for primetime as I am sure I will need their expert commentary to put everything in "context" for me, and understand what is going on.

    Thanks NBC...
     
  20. Aug 7, 2012 #500 of 578
    inkahauts

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    I watching the women's volleyball right now on NBC.
     

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