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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by gusmahler, Jul 27, 2012.
Where else can you see One Direction and Pink Floyd in one show
I enjoyed NBC's one hour documentary on WWII yesterday during their primetime coverage. I am hoping we get coverage of the Napoleonic Wars tonight, or a piece on the Roman conquests. Idiots.
I hope before Rio I get the ability to stream the BBC in HD.
I'll record tonite's broadcast. I'll watch it ... whenever ... not as though anything's gonna change. No Costa, no commercials, no Co$ta, either.
It was so exciting to actually be able to watch the whole uncut commercial free closing ceremony live. I am watching the somewhat sharper 1080i broadcast on my local affiliate now since I can record it...
They are cutting out lots of actual content for commercials...
The announcers are talking over the music and public announcer...
And we have a 1/3 screen weather bug map on the screen with a severe thunderstorm warning 140 miles away, and WELL out of the stations DMA, and even outside our local NWS offices area of responsibility....
I pray in the next 4 years, technology improves enough that we dont have to put up with this ignorant network anymore.
NBC did it again.
They thought that the traditional closing ceremony marathon medal ceremony.... wasn't quite as important as plugging their really bad and cheesy animal hospital comedy.
Ah well, its NBC being NBC. Nothing new.
1 member of Pink Floyd does not Pink Floyd make...
It was nice to see Nick but David and Roger could have put their differences aside again like they did for Live 8.
Was thinking the same thing last night.
Technology has VASTLY improved since then. It is no wonder that NBC, after all the #NBCFail fallout, actually CHANGED their weekend schedules on the 2nd and 3d weekend of the games to be LIVE across all time zones, and they actually started bragging about that to show how good they were.....
NBC has provided PLENTY of good coverage, for sure. But the difference between east and west really has to stop, as well as cutting out things so it is "tailored to an American audience". I understand you may not want to show all matches all the time, as people would mostly care about the matches Americans participate in..... fully, FULLY understand that. But all the cuts in the opening and closing ceremony, and the delays to the west.... is pure BS of the thickest kind.
With Rio being 1 hour beyond EDT, will the west once again have to deal with 3 hours delay while EDT gets it live? Now they have FOUR years to figure it out, with the 11 hour difference in Sochi they probably won't.
What I watched of it on NBC's broadcast was good. I enjoyed it. I skipped all of the commercials and most of the commentary ... but I didn't count on Dick Cl ... I mean Ryan Seacrest interjecting at every turn ... oh well.
We (wife and I) loved every Beatles tune they played but we were a bit taken aback at how George Michael has aged. Goes to show you - and as most of the closing ceremony seemed bent on doing - how in our minds we worship the youthful snapshots of aged Pop Gods ... oh well, again.
We stopped watching when they started the wonderful rendition of The Beatles' "I Am The Walrus". I love that song ... made me want to go listen to the Styx version, which I prefer. But we'll pay due homage and sometime today watch the ceremony's version instead.
Oh, well ... on with the frivolity.
For me, the highlights of the NBC coverage were.
1. Live streaming of individual events. completely eliminated having to worry about spoilers on the events important to me.
2. Dedicated Soccer and Basketball channels that repeat all day. Easy to set the recorder and watch an entire match and they even shortened the half times.
The Lowlights were.
1. Only showing a portion of an event if the USA was losing. Case in point, US womens Volleyball team won the first set then all of a sudden after the commercial it is 18-11 and US loses.
2. Al Michaels and Bob Costas with their PermaDye hair. At least Seacrests hair looked natural. Too much mindless chatter and fluff from all three.
3. Lastly, starting evening coverage at 8 and running it until midnight. They could at least have started at 7 so my DVR would have a bigger head start. We found ourselves watching other recorded shows and then switching to Olympic coverage at 9:30 and skipping through all of the interviews and commercials and calling it quits at 11- 11:15 when we caught up to Live.
Cheap Trick did a Sgt. Pepper tribute concert a couple years ago that's pretty good. It's available on DVD and I think they released a CD as well. It was a charity thing.
They did it as a full show in Las Vegas. I'm not sure how long it ran for.
EDIT: Actually after looking it up they've done it several times. Two weeks in Sept 2009 at the Las Vegas Hilton, In Sept 2010 at Paris Las Vegas, etc.
NBC mentioned the Rio time difference during the closing ceremonies and said "that will help" with their broadcast.
Sochi will be near impossible to do live on TV.
I totally understand about Sochi with the 11 hour difference.
But I am still pissed off about the east-west difference, and I really have no faith in if Rio "prime time" at say 8 PM.... which would be 7PM EDT, that we on the West coast will actually get to see it live at 4PM PDT.
They didn't do it in 2008. (With live swimming to EDT)
They didn't do it in 2010. (With the whole darn games in PDT, we still get it 3 hours later).
They didn't do it in 2012. (With the exception of some of the weekend coverage.)
Three Olympics in a row, (and actually no different in 2006, 2004..... but social media was so less prevalent then, you just needed to stay away from a site or three) the west coast gets SCREWED.
I have no reason to believe that the next 2 Olympics we won't get screwed again. In 2014 because of the time difference.... in 2016 because well.... oh my, those pesky local affiliates and contracts and blah blah we can make more money by delaying it.
NBC hasn't done much to improve. And I lost hope that it will be any better next time around. West coast will get screwed as usual, and the 220 million people not living where the other 80 million live..... well, why should they care, right?
The only thing I have to give NBC props for is their excellent online coverage. Everything was available online, which made it real easy to pick games and watch stuff. That, they did 95% right. (Not streaming the opening ceremony was still a big miss).
But they really need to get rid of the east/west delay. If you can't get the affiliates on board, at least simul-cast the east coast timeslot to either a special temporary Olympics channel (like the Soccer/Basketball channels) or to an existing cable tier network. They could even use Universal HD or something for that.
Also disappointed that there will be no Paralympics coverage at all. Sure, this is something they can probably make no profit on at all, but they could have at least tucked it away in a lesser watched channels for a few hours a day. I think that can be watched online though.
There is no way that the west coast affiliates would accept their coverage ... and local advertising ... be undercut by cable channel carriage. Local affiliates pay for first run programming.
PrimeTime at 4pm would be a mess. Is everyone on the west coast going to get off work three hours early so they can make it home for the live coverage? No.
The PrimeTime coverage is designed for those who come home from work in the afternoon and spend their evening watching TV. Live weekend coverage where people are not so tied to that schedule might work ... but most people simply are not available before PrimeTime.
And so, the United States remains the only nation that cannot broadcast the Olympics at the same time to all the people in their nation. Reason: Money, greed, and corporate power.
There are plenty of people that take off work early because the NBA finals start at 5:00 PM when they are on the east coast. That is every YEAR. Same with MLB, NHL, and other sports. Every YEAR. You don't see those "tape delayed because the west coast fans are probably not going to want to watch it live, lets design coverage in such a way they see it when we are SURE they are home".
We're talking about the biggest sport event in the world. There are plenty of people who would take off work a little earlier to see it. At the very least, they can record it and start watching with little delay beyond the east coast.
I get home from work at 4:30, as I start early. And I also wouldn't mind going to bed early because of it, I try to be in bed by 11. If a channel would simulcast the east coast coverage, I would be able to start watching the coverage at 4:30-ish and see it ALMOST live. A few commercials in, and it will be live.
And what do you think, that Canadians are really so different from us? Why can the games be broadcasted at the same time there from the east to the west coast?
Personally, I believe they get plenty, if not more advertising income by simulcasting the games at the same time for those who want to see it that way, even if it is on a tucked-away channel like Universal HD, and the locals plus the main network would still get ALL the ratings and income earnings they want. Some people might actually watch some of the stuff again at night.
I know this is nation is primarily driven by corporate capitalism, but I had just hoped that in the spirit of the Olympics, the wall-street type greed could be set aside for a moment, and bring the Olympics to us at the same time. I still believe this can be profitable for NBC.
But, as usual, a corporation is not interested in "adequate" profit, but in MOAR profit.
Rats! Amazon doesn't have it in their MP3 Library. Any idea were I can get it short of Itunes?
I know you don't want to hear me say it again, but I'm going to say it again.. they don't delay MLB and NHL and NBA games (which, for what it's worth, start at 6pm PT during the finals) because it wouldn't work. They delay the Olympics because it doesn't hurt the ratings and allows those West coast affiliates to keep their local programming intact. You want it to change for Rio? Convince your affiliate that you're more likely to watch at 5pm than you are starting at 8pm. If the majority of viewers aren't going to do that, then it's going to stay the same.
For better or worse, you have that right. NBC is a business. Their goal is to make money, not to make business decisions based on "Olympic spirit." Call it greed if you want, but they don't owe it to the IOC (speaking of companies that are about maximizing ratings and profits) to do it differently if they don't think it will generate higher ratings and/or bigger profits. And speaking of ratings..
London Olympics on NBC is Most-Watched Television Event in U.S. History
So for all the criticisms and complaints about the coverage, that's what we're left with. NBC is going to be claiming victory on this one and judging by those numbers, they rightfully should. We can all argue about whether or not what they did was the most profitable and most watched Olympics they could have produced, but clearly they did something right more than just to sink their money into an event that somehow on it's own got even more popular than last time around. I'm still going to think that NBC must have had something to do with that.
I was unaware that the NBA finals ran every day for over two full weeks, providing thousands of hours of sports.
The Olympics were expected to cause a $1.38 billion loss in productivity for U.S. companies. And that was with the streaming and TV schedule that NBC chose to use.
This year only 42% of TV homes have the ability to watch with their own delay.
If the NBC network is lucky they will break even on the games. NBC Universal will do better as the use of the cable channels brings awareness to their other channels. How many of those viewers stick around after the games is yet to be proven.
If I asked you for a ten and three fives as change for a twenty would you give it to me? If so, please do. But if you recognize that it would be fiscally irresponsible of you to make that deal please recognize that making money is the purpose of business.
It is also the purpose of most individuals. They make money so they can afford to pay for the things they want ... such as DVRs, HDTVs and solid internet connections for IPTV.
NBC is not a charity ... it is a business.
Amazon does have it: