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NBC Passes on "Wonder Woman"

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  1. Jan 23, 2011 #41 of 211
    cj9788

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    From WikiGogh and Millay wanted to strip Superman down to his "bare essence", and explore the reasons behind Clark Kent becoming Superman.They felt the fact they were not comic book fans played into their favor; not being familiar with the universe would allow them an unbiased approach to the series. However, this did not keep them from learning about the characters, as they both did research on the comics and picked and rearranged what they liked. They returned and pitched their idea to both The WB and FOX on the same day. A bidding war ensued between FOX and The WB; the latter won out with a commitment of thirteen episodes to start.

    All I am saying is that Hollywood can & usually does take liberties with recreations of established stories comics or otherwise. With a producer like David E. Kelly it is entirely possible to see a wonder woman different from the comic book. Nothing is ever written in stone. If I am not mistaken wasn't there a Superboy comic? That goes against the Smallville premise altogether. And Smallville had good ratings for the WB then CW. To think that a series based on a comic book would only have comic book geeks watching is a bit closed minded. I highly doubt the percentage of Nielsen families that are comic book geeks would have an impact.

    Again I agree that WW should be an amazon type and definitely brunet. That is what hair dye is for. But I am a realist and when it comes to Hollywood anything is possible.
     
  2. Jan 23, 2011 #42 of 211
    RunnerFL

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    ok, whatever, you're right... You can never be wrong...
     
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    Height & hair color, at least for me, isn't a big deal. In fact, if WW wasn't 6ft+, it could easily be explained away that her shorter stature was the primary reason for leaving the rest of the group. So problem solved there.

    But then there is this.

    This won't work for me. That puts both identities in the extremely strong alpha female spot.

    A big appeal of the original was that as WW, the character was that alpha type. While in the Diana persona, she was demure. Like Clark Kent to Superman.

    If they want to stick to the corporate environment, they should make her a doormat assistant/secretary. Pushed around, walked all over in one persona, kicking ass and taking names in the other. :D
     
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    Whoa whats with the attitude I could say the same to you. We disagree about the topic and I am giving valid reasons. It's called coversation. How crappy would the world be if everyone agreed on every thing.

    BTW i share your sentiments about WW. If I offended you mia culpa.
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    As a sometimes fan of comic books... I have to inject some realism here.

    While it is true that comic fans keep the comics alive, and without comic fans there wouldn't be characters on which to base these kinds of movies/TV shows... you need a bigger audience.

    In recent years the highest selling regular comic book is not usually topping 100,000 copies... A comic like Wonder Woman is more typically at half that. So, if the only people who come to the party are the comic fans... then the show is dead before it gets started.

    Like it or hate it, that's why hollywood has to sometimes make changes... because they know that they have to appeal to a much wider market in order to sell the film.

    People forget that Lynda Carter was a relative unknown. Yes, she was a Miss America... but WW was her first real acting role, so to the masses she was an unknown.

    Casting a known actress might draw some fans in at first... but I agree that the best chance for a longer-running show would be to cast a new actress who can act.

    I am still unsure that this will really work as a TV show anyway. Smallville is the longest running live-action super-hero show... and they've done most of it without costumes. I think that's part of the key to the success of reaching a wider audience week after week.

    Costumed shows have been done well in the past too... but they didn't last nearly as long. Heck, the movie releases usually don't get a 3rd in the series before they want to start over... so long-term doesn't seem in the cards for super-hero fare.
     
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    Maybe currently, but how long did 'Lois & Clark' run?
     
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    You want someone relatively unknown in television but who is tall, brunette and athletic? One who is a celebrity in her field and has done the SI Swimsuit issue?


    Look up Hillary Rhoda.
     
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    Good selection, when I searched for her she is being tossed around as possible wonder woman on some comic book forums. But can she act?
     
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    I don't think many will notice much if she can not act ;)
     
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    I will.

    Unlike most here, I watch shows for the acting and story. I could care less what the people look like or what actress gets a certain role.

    But, I also agree with Runner in that comic book geeks will make up the bulk of this shows audience and they do things and view the world much differently than I do.
     
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    !rolling


    They may make up much of the audience but how many of them are Nielsen family's. In the end The Nielsen's have the final say.

    I have never known personally a comic book geek, so my view of them is pretty much what I see on Big Bang Theory. If they are like Sheldon then WW must demand a beautiful 6 foot or + amazon. Should it be so? Yes Will it be so? Who Knows with David E Kelly in the producers chair.
     
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    Someone beat me to it... but just 4 seasons.

    Smallville blows away all of the other super-hero shows at 10 seasons once this season finishes. I'd have to double-check, but I'm pretty sure no other super-hero themed show went more than 5... and off the top of my head I can't think of any that went more than 4.
     
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    Might I suggest someone like Catherine Mack-Hancock:

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    She's an inch shorter than New Zealander Lawless, but a young Aussie actress. From her web site:
    She represents the kind of talent that's out there.;)
     
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    Superman 6 seasons 2 in B&W 52 to 54 color 55 to 58
    Batman 3 seasons Jan 66 to march of 68
    Green Hornet 1 season 66-67
    Wonder woman 3 seasons 1 on ABC 75-76 CBS 2 season 77-79
    The Amazing Spider-Man 2 seasons 77-79
    Incredible Hulk 5 seasons 77-82
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    Gorgeous she is a good pick.
     
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    Submitted for your consideration: Samantha Noble, daughter of Fringe's John Noble.

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    The Lone Ranger, 221 episodes over 5 seasons, 49-57.

    Reaching back to the BSG analogy, WW not being from the Amazon would be like saying the Cylons were created by man. ;) I don't know what this is intended to be, but we've seen a re-imagining can expand a story in ways a remake can't.
     
  18. Jan 24, 2011 #58 of 211
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    Hey, Hillary already has the gold bracelet!


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    Is the Lone Ranger a super-hero? I don't know how to count him. Zorro would count if the Lone Ranger counts.

    That's a show I never know how to count... because in the later seasons they were doing half the number of episodes that they did in the early seasons... so I forget that it went 6 seasons.

    As example... the DVDs were released as Season 1, Season 2, Seasons 3/4, and Seasons 5/6... since WB didn't think it worth releasing individual season sets for those final seasons.

    I really count Hulk as 4.25 seasons. That final season was very abruptly cut short and caught the showrunners by surprise who thought they had a whole season.
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    Back onto WW topics...

    If they made WW not from the Amazon, it would be like saying Superman wasn't from Krypton.

    They might as well make Dark Angel again if they want a WW that isn't from the Amazon.
     

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