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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by fluffybear, Mar 3, 2013.
From Hollywood reporter:
I think Fallon is far better, been pretty obvious after Jay "came back" that he has been trying to get some of those younger viewers. Of course I liked Kilbourne and think Ferguson blows Letterman out of the water as well. Even though I am in the target demo I still don't think any of the late night shows are even worth keeping on. Same with SNL don't know anyone my age or younger that has watched since late '90's early '00's when we were all in High School/College.
Haven't we seen this movie before?
I do not watch the late night talk shows so maybe Jimmy Fallon can succeed where Conan O'Brien failed but it sounds like a big gamble
Do we really even now need Jimmy Kimmel, Jay Leno, and David Letterman all on at the same time?
Of course, what do I know, I thought both Chevy Chase and Joan Rivers were great, LOL.
(but not Arsenio Hall)
Don't forget Pat Sajak!
Good. Jay deserves anything bad (professionally) that comes his way.
I think that talk show format has ran its course.
I was a Carson fan... and an early Letterman fan. I liked Conan for a while... but now the whole genre seems a bit old and cliched to me.
That said, I echo the notion that Jay deserves a fall from grace. He has been involved too many times in poor passing-of-torch scenarios... to the point where I make a point not to be anywhere near NBC anytime before or after Leno so that no way do I accidentally get counted as a viewer of his show.
Here they go again!
The three networks are not going to give up the live ratings for the 11:35 pm -12:35 am slot. Nightly in the demo Leno, Letterman and Kimmel divide up 2.5± million plus 7± million in the 50+ crowd. The shows are relatively cheap to produce though Leno did get a bit pricy. But don't look for these shows to go away as they not only make money but they represent a means by the media companies to promote their other products while making money.
We record them and watch interviews we want to see plus Headllines on Leno.
I watched Jay before he was retired ... and Conan (even though he seemed to be childish and focused on a less mature audience). After the move to 10pm I watched both ... but with the "politics" attached to Leno's move back to 11:35 I left both of them. I tried watching Conan on TBS but have only watched a few episodes (The Daily Show and Colbert own that hour on my DVR). The only network late night I bother with now is Craig ... but not every night.
Back in the day I watched Carson and Letterman but when Letterman moved to CBS I started going back and forth between Leno and Letterman. Then I stopped watching both due to other changes in my life.
Leno gone again? I'm OK with that.
Letterman has seemed really old and passe for years. He has seemed bored with the gig for at least 10 years. His gags have been falling flat since the 90's. Why is he still around?
Leno gone? Fine. Stale and middle of the road. But Kimmel?? Yuck. His only funny bit was sex with Matt Damon. Fallon is the best of the lot, but he's kind of cold and off-putting. No sincerity or warmth to speak of. Has a frantic, nervous vibe. He could burn out in the early slot pretty quickly.
No Louie C.K., THERE'S a guy I'd watch at 11:30! But he's far, far too edgy for network.
I guess that the (desparate?) move to 1 min earlier (from :35 to :34) must not've helped enough, either. Seemed to have happened about the time Kimmel changed timeslots.
Although in this market Kimmel makes no difference (to me), since he's still delayed and replayed in sucky standard-def. Actually, the delay doesn't bother me (never did) but the low def thing has got to stop. KSTP must be about the only station still using pre-millenium tech to time shift ABC programming. Maybe it's getting about time to "have a talk with The Mouse!"
... on at all?
I haven't watched anything in that time slot since Carson left.
I record Jimmy Fallon and Craig Ferguson but only watch if the guests appeal to me or I've heard of something that I "must see" happening on either show.
I record the Tonight Show, and very seldom fail to get a great laugh or two or three from the opening monologue. Stick for guests I might like, or new comedians, or musical talent. I imagine Jay himself might want to get out now. Who knows?
Letterman was fine years and years ago on the Late Show, but I don't like his persona at all. Kimmel doesn't even merit these seven words.
I like the Tonght Show too. I really like Leno and have paid to see himlive. It was no surprise when Conan failed because he's not funny and acted like a little kid with his own show. When Leno is no longer on late night I will probably look at his replacement or some of the other shows but as far as I am concerned he's the best and will be hard to replace.
There are other channels -- several of them. H2 is one I like around the witching hour.
I'm not a fan of Kimmel, but do like Jimmy Fallon. One thing I do like about Leno, he still goes out there and does live standup.
Plus his tour to Wilmington Ohio (and other cities like Detroit I believe) was quite well received there.