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Need to hook up 19 boxes to a single LNB SWiM dish.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by TauCephei, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. Jan 9, 2012 #1 of 37
    TauCephei

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    doctor j

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    Nope!
    Sounds like a SWM LNB which has an 8 tuner max.
    You can use the same dish but will have to go to an standard 4 wire LNB.
    Then some combination of SWM-8, SWM-16 or a SWM-32 could be used.
    A polarity locker and amplifier would be a good idea with that many tuners.

    Since no DVRs , single line coax to each receiver would be ok. Thus you could use WB-68 multiswitches but would definitely need amps with that.

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  3. Jan 9, 2012 #3 of 37
    DarkLogix

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    Due to costs here's what I'd suggest

    4 wire LNB (you'll need it as a SWM LNB has a max of 8 tuners and you'll need all 4 feeds to feed a SWM8/16/or 32)

    2x SWM16 (the 32's price is crazy) you could get away with 1x SWM16 and 1x SWM8, but it'll just be easier
    you might not need a Locker (it wouldn't hurt)

    get 1x 8way and 3x 4way SWM splitters

    then the setup would be
    4 wires from LNB to 1st SWM16
    6 wires (just to be complete though the Flex ones aren't really needed) from 1st SWM16 to 2nd SWM16 using the cascade ports

    I wouldn't use WB68/WB616's just because it's older tech and if you get a receiver that must be SWM you'll be better off, and have fewer issues to worry about

    a SWM32 could do the job but last I checked there weren't any on e-bay and the normal vendor ones were $600 where as a SWM16 can be had for $70-80 normally on e-bay
     
  4. Jan 9, 2012 #4 of 37
    west99999

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    The technician did exactly as he should have. The order is installed based upon the number of tuners at time of install, not future tuners. You will need to change the LNB out to a regular 5 LNB with four outputs and run 4 cables down to your junction point.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2012 #5 of 37
    west99999

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    All you need is one SWM 16 just use 2 8 way splitters for the 1st 16 tuners then use the legacy ports for the other 3. No need for polarity locker or anything else.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2012 #6 of 37
    DarkLogix

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    The SWM LNB is an all in one piece
    IE nothing is there converting

    yes you could get a few WB68's but if you have a SWM only receiver like the H25 then its a no go

    if the D* installer knows that you need 19 receivers then he should put the proper 4wire LNB and not the SMW LNB
     
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    phoneman06

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    DarkLogix

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    If the other 3 are H25's then he can't
     
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    west99999

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    Even if the installer knew they were getting 11 more receivers later he still would not put in a a 4 wire lnb becuase that is not what the work order calls for and it would throw the inventory off his truck by using the incorrect lnb.
     
  10. veryoldschool

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    We've got the winner here!

    When/if more tuners get added:

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  11. west99999

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    Ok easy fix just hook up 3 that arent H25's.

    5x H22
    3x H24
     
  12. DarkLogix

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    If the receivers are ordered from D* then D* would provide it

    if not then when activated on the account D* would know and you might be able to get a tech out to install the needed SWM devices
     
  13. P Smith

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    VOS, time to remove 72.5W dish from DTV diagrams. ;) It's totally occupied by dish now.
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    yes, but it's not my diagram, so it's just what explains how.
     
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    If you contact Sonora Designs 805-644-8913, in Ventra Ca. they can help you design and equip your system correctly.
     
  16. Earl Bonovich

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    Take out 72.5 and World Direct connections, and this would be an exact replica of my setup at home... works perfect, and easily expandable.
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    And just "for you":

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    Would he get HD over the 3 legacy ports?
     
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    Yes, the 4 ports on the SWM16 pass "everything" but DECA
     
  20. TheRatPatrol

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    Ah ok. Didn't know the legacy ports passed the "new" HD signals as well. Thanks.
     

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