Netflix $99 Set Top Box Announced

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  1. Chris Blount

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    I got the update on both of my Roku boxes last night. So far so good.

    The HD PQ is good but definitely not Blu-Ray. I would say it is about half way between a good upconverted SD picture and Blu-Ray. Kind of like what a Apple TV does. The added benefit is that the Roku box now does an excellent job upconverted non-HD movies to 720p. Also, like the Wii, the main screen contains "channels". None are available right now but according to a text statement after upgrading, channels are coming in early 2009.

    No bad and I'm sure over time things will improve.
     
  2. tonyd79

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    I have Netflix on my HD Tivo and on the Roku. HD came on the Tivo earlier than the Roku. I am going to play with both to see what I like about each (so far, I like the Tivo GUI better...it is not Tivo-like at all, BTW) but the Roku seems quicker and does a better job of FF/Rewind. The PQ seems equal (they are both hooked up via component but the Tivo is set at 1080i and the Roku at 720p).

    I have had the Roku for several months now and have been quite happy with the performance. Very few dropouts but this release seems to have improved PQ (which makes sense since it now upconverts all to HD) and loading speed. The Tivo is a bit balky getting into the programming (which Tivo seems to be overall these days...they are really pushing those boxes with stuff including at least three different GUI styles).

    The Roku may find its way into the bedroom but for now it stays in the living room along side the Tivo waiting to see what the new content (Hulu?) will be.

    For me, the PQ for SD is better than most SD (including OTA) but varies per program (naturally). The HD looks HD but has a slighly strobing look on motion (not huge but noticeable often). That may improve as Netflix is using a new compression scheme.
     
  3. Chris Blount

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  4. Chris Blount

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    Did anyone get the new software with Amazon video? I still don't have it on either of my boxes.
     
  5. LarryFlowers

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    Chris.. I understand the software for the Roku boxes is still being tested "in several limited geographic areas" one of which I believe is Seattle and it isn't ready yet... but I also believe their goal is the first quarter.


     
  6. Grentz

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    I would love to see a download only netflix subscription, I would probably go for that. I dont have much interest in doing the by mail DVDs though right now.
     
  7. Michael D'Angelo

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    As long as you have the one DVD at a time unlimited plan (which I believe is $7.99 am month) you can download as much as you want. The selection is limited but for $7.99 a month you can't beat it. And you can you have a few movies a month sent or leave your que empty if you don't want any sent.
     
  8. Grentz

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    I guess that is not too bad. Would prefer something like $4.99 for the current selection.

    Hopefully in the future things will improve, though I know the studios are not all loving downloadable formats as first releases as it hurts disc sales.
     
  9. dpd146

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    1. Does anyone know the size of the movies? Curious how many movies/shows I could watch with Comcast bandwidth limit.

    2. Does the video quality change based on your connection speed like it does watching on the computer?
     
  10. Hutchinshouse

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    Here's some cool details on Netflix: http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/19/do-not-time-netflix-hd-streaming-shootout/

    I have the Samsung BD-P2550. Netflix "HD" is slightly better than a good DVD. Connection speed does play a big part. Checkout the link for details.
     
  11. jadebox

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    The quality does depend on the connection speed. I use a HomePlug AV (2.0) connection between my cable modem and my LG Blu-Ray player that I use to stream video from Netflix. I don't know what speed I'm getting through the connection, but it's a fraction of the speed of a typical cable modem or DSL connection. Nevertheless, I have no problem streaming the HD content at it's highest quality.

    Previously, I used an 802.11g Wi-Fi connection and, most of the time, it also was able to stream at full HD quaility.

    So, I think the bandwidth requirements for Netflix streaming are not very great.

    -- Roger
     
  12. dpd146

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    When I watch online the image quality definately fluctuates depending on my current connection speed.

    I can not get consistent connection speeds with my Windows machine. I think it something in my set-up (bad cable, bad switch etc...) because when I speed test my Linux machine which is hooked right to the router I get 5mbps consistently and the Windows machine jumps between 2.5 and 4.

    But I am rambling. I will probably get the Roku and give it a shot. It's not that expensive.
     
  13. Chris Blount

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    I just got an e-mail from Roku. It looks like the Amazon movies will be available via a firmware update within the next 5 days.
     
  14. Chris Blount

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    Well, I downloaded the Amazon update last night to my Roku box. Seems to work fairly well. During setup, they give you a web address and a code so you can attach your Amazon account to the Roku box.

    It was actually kind of interesting. A few years ago I purchased a couple of TV episodes on Amazon and forgot about them. They popped right up on the Roku box once my account was active. Kind of cool actually.

    I plan on playing with it more tonight.
     
  15. dpd146

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    I figured out my problem when watching online is the Comcast speedboost which gives you a jolt at the begining of a download but slows after so many MB's. This was causing the online Netflix player to adjust speed and sometimes start buffering again.

    While researching the problem I found out that you can hit Shift+B when the Neflix player is first starting and adjust the bitrate. I found the sweet spot for me is 1600Kbps. Get decent picture and no re-buffering.

    Gonna get the box and see how it does with the shifting connection speeds.
     
  16. wakajawaka

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    I just ordered the Roku player today. Can't wait to try it out. It was an easy sell to my wife. If it works out, I'll be getting another one for the bedroom. From all the comments so far, I think we'll be happy with it.
     
  17. Chris Blount

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    Great!

    Just be aware that you can only stream to as many boxes as your subscription allows. For instance, if you have the "one out" plan, you can have one Roku box, "two out" plan...two Roku's...and so on.
     
  18. Michael D'Angelo

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    Chris, I believe that has changed. My plan now is 2 at a time and I can use up to 6 (at least that is what it says when I check on their site).
     
  19. Chris Blount

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    Yes but I was walking about simulatneous streaming. You can have multiple devices you just can't stream to them all at the same time.
     
  20. Michael D'Angelo

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    ok thanks :) I actually did not know that. I thought when I heard that a while back you could only have two units. Now I know.
     

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