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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Filibogado, Apr 3, 2010.
So now you're debating about that, right? Sarcasm can be a friend.
How about simply say "yeah, I misread it, sorry", rather than sarcasm and eyerolls.
How about not debating every post and every point.
So onward we go to the topic at hand...
I really don't like that Smilie rolleyes. Sarcasm is something we could all do without.
I also detest this Smilie: . Make me think of the caricatures of Japanese people that were so prevalent during and after WWII.
Ok, bottom line here is this.
Blockbuster failed because it held onto the brick and mortar too long and didn't go all in on the rental by mail and streaming. Why is this a big deal? Billions of dollars a year down the drain in building leases, property taxes, utility bills and so forth that Netflix frankly just doesn't have. Very little overhead for Netflix.
As for people holding onto movies "too long". That's actually good for Netflix since they are still getting money per month from that person and spending nothing themselves on that customer.
As for Netflix and the future...by starting to emphasis streaming they *are* reacting to the market which is heading in that direction. If the cable companies continue/start to limit bandwidth and enact caps that hurt that business model guess what? Netflix still has discs to send you in the mail. Right now there is nothing "beyond" streaming to look out for. When that comes and Netflix doesn't get into that space then we can gripe at Netflix for not keeping up with the times as Blockbuster didn't. Right now Netflix *is* keeping up with the times and evolving ahead of the curve.
As to the original question of value of Netflix vs. PPV or premium channels...I myself went Netflix quite a few years ago. For the cost of only 2 PPV's a month I get the latest movies (as many as I can churn a month) long before they hit any premium channel (even with a 30 day delay upon release) and it's a lot cheaper then PPV no doubt and a LOT better quality with Bluray. I guess PPV's only advantage is the spur of the moment but there is never a time I have to watch a movie "right now" as I always have the latest movies showing up at my door every week.
I'd be willing to bet that automated setup they have for discs is very costly and the maintenance on it must be a major cost. Add in the fees they pay the USPS and going full blast into streaming is gonna save them a huge amount of money.
Man, that looks somewhat familiar to what I was thinking of posting... Oh wait, I think I did post it...
Right on Scott!
In fact, Netflix was a pioneer in the streaming business. They were the first service I had heard of that you could watch movies on your computer. There may have been earlier ones but they were on the forefront of the streaming wave (and were the first onto most internet appliances like Roku, etc.).
With that, it is hard to accuse Netflix of not looking forward or being married to one delivery mechanism.
He is not the only one. Nor were you.
Most definitely. Only now they are going nearly "all in" with streaming, before it was almost more "toe dipping" although they were very aggressive in getting themselves on pretty much everything including the toaster. But what they are doing now is doing multi-million dollar deals with the studios to get more movies streaming sooner. The big thing they are missing is new movies streaming but they are now addressing that. Which continues their all in philosophy. But if streaming were to fail, they still have the disc business to "fall back" on which has always made money so far.
My only issue with Netflix is that the streaming HD content over the Internet is not as good picture quality as a given DirecTV HD channel. This will and is improving.
What device are you using for streaming?
Does not matter. The PQ will not be as good as DirecTV HD. Bandwidth is lower. Nor does Netflix do 5.1 sound yet.
Agree. I think they needed streaming to get mainstream (no pun intended) with other services out there for studios to understand what it was and to be able to get more content. Plus they needed competition out there to make STB makers pay attention. When you offer just Netflix, maybe Blu Ray players don't support streaming but when they can offer Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon, Pandora, etc., it makes it worthwhile for the CE manufacturers and then, in turn, Netflix and the studios.
Gotta disagree with you. I use 3 Panny BD65s that upscale all NetFlix content and the PQ is much better than D*'s. The Pannys and my one Sammy HR-C5500 all upscale to 1080/60p. The Rokus don't upscale and perhaps that's what you've based that opinion on. The Rokus do put out an impressive 720p on NetFlix content that has "HD" at the end of the dots. That is at least as good as D*'s 720p. But you can't compare the Rokus to the upscaling BD players. 1080/60p PQ is almost as good as 1080/24p.
Looks like I'm right between the two opposing views on this...
I use the LG550 Blu Ray player and get Netflix HD that is pretty much on par with DirecTV's HD...not better, not worse. In theory, that's the way its suppose to be. In practice, it is just that here....and that's on a 116" screen no less.
For that very reason, I see it as a compliment (of content choices) to CinemaNow, not an alternative.
I've never tried an LG BD player. Does that upscale to 1080/60p? If it does, you should be seeing a better picture than D*'s 1080i. I do see differences in my three Panny BD players and my Sammy BD player. The Pannys upscale all content and it's always in the proper aspect. So when I watch L&O SVU from it's earliest days, I get a really good picture. That same show is barely viewable on a Roku and my Sammy doesn't put it in the proper aspect, which should be the original 4:3 it was filmed in. The Pannys do.
The Sammy has much more bells and whistles than the Pannys do, but all I look for is PQ and the Pannys are better at that. Reminds me of the Mitsubishi VCRs vs the Sony VCRs. The Mitsubishi did so much more than the Sony did. The remote control was much more impressive and had more functions than the Sony remotes, but, as much as I wanted to keep the Mitsubishi VCRs, the Sonys simply put out a better picture. There wasn't much difference in the price, just the PQ and, in the end, that's what counts the most.
That's driven as much by the display as it is the source device, of course.
I have a 1080i projector in that room for the 116" screen, not a 1080p one. The picture is excellent, with great image contrast/color, as well as clarity. In fact, a neighbor had a 1080p projector installed about 9 months ago for $11,000 and he keeps telling me how ticked he is... because "mine looks better than his". Then again, Blu Ray and CinemaNow also looks great on it.
You should see the new Oppo. Excellent PQ on everything, including upscaled Netflix.
I'm using two 1080p and one 720p Panny plasmas. The difference between 1080i and 1080/60p is very noticeable. Takes me a few minutes to get used to the 1080i content from D*, but once I do, it's quite acceptable.
My wife asked me the other day about a projector. We've got a big room with a very high cathedral ceiling and it would be ideal for a projector. We hardly use the room for anything most of the time. We have it set up as a living room/dining room, but we rarely eat in the dining area and never use the living room part unless we have company. Don't have TV in that room.
I can't believe how much the cost of projectors has come down. In '92 I signed a purchase order for a projector that would handle everything from computers to movies for use in an auditorium that we were upgrading and the projector took a couple days to set up. It cost $40,000 dollars!
Watching the guy from the AV company we contracted the job out to set that thing up kinda soured me on projectors, but I did use them when teaching later on at a college, but all they were designed for was use with computers. Very handy in a classroom. That was before HD was being used.
Every time I've tried an OPPO, I've had problems with them. But that was a while ago and all they had at that time were upscalers and the Sony upscalers put out a better picture at a much lower cost. But, hell, I'll try anything. What model are you using?
I've got so many BD players it seems as if they are breeding like bunnies. One more can't hurt. :lol: