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Networking Your HD-DVR+

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Milominderbinder2, Dec 27, 2006.

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  1. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Please...please PM me when you get the fimrware fix and confirm it works....I will definitely buy one and use. Thanks !

    I wonder if the D-Link ones work as-is with HR20 ?
     
  2. Spanky_Partain

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    I will let you know. Not sure about the D-Link.
     
  3. mdgrice

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    I have spent much time testing and working with Media Sharing. I finally got everything working properly with my HR21-700 connected to MY PC(s) running WinXP SP2!
    These instructions MAY /Should work for HR20, but I have not tested any HR20 boxes.

    Now I am ready to share my knowledge: [This is for MEDIA SHARING, not general networking]

    First connect the HR21 to the PC.
    The simpliest connection is a single ethernet cable from the top RJ45 port on the HR21 to the RJ45 port on your computer. Routers and other connections also work, just are more involved. [My current setup is a Wireless (netgear) adapter on my desktop pc {running both WMP11 & TVersity}, My HR21 directly plugged into a Wireless router/dls box, and a laptop {WMP11} pulgged into the same wireless router as the HR21.] Both PCs and the HR21 communicate to the Network and The Internet.

    Second prepare the PC for Media Sharing:
    A.) Go to PC's Display settings and turn off power saving and Screen saver settings. This prevents "logging off" messages while PC is still running) See POST #1 of Step by Step Router/Bridge/HR20 Network Configuration Doc Thread

    B.) GO to PC's Network card power savings setting in Device Manager This prevents "logging off" messages while PC is still running) See POST #1 of Step by Step Router/Bridge/HR20 Network Configuration Doc Thread

    C. ) MAJOR DISCOVERY that solved my logoff problem: I am running Win/XP Home -SP2. Compaq. I discovered that there is a Windows "Component" that was not installed . (Control Panel>>Add or Remove Programs>>Windows Components>>Networking Services>>(Details). Ensure that UPnP User Interface is checked and Click "OK" **This needs to be added to POST #1 of Step by Step Router/Bridge/HR20 Network Configuration Docthread

    D.) Install WMP11 on PC (if not already installed) NOTE: Going to Tools>>OPTIONS>Library>>Sharing usually result in no sharing device shown (HR21 [aka "unknown device"]
    E.) Restart PC.

    Third. RESET the HR21 (Unplug, or Red Button, or Menu reset.

    After HR21 completes the reset, (normal tv picture is available) the HR21 will show up inthe WMP's "Share my media with" list (BOX) Add device if needed. If select item and "allow" does not un-gray, device is already allowed (You may have checked allow automatically in the "settings" window.

    Pressing Menu on the HR21 should now show Music and Pictures option. As far as I can tell, only the HR20 with certain software levels can use the "Video" folders. I have read that the HR21's will have this capability in future software releases.

    Now Media Sharing is available. As long as the PC is powered on and ready, "Music and Pictures" option will remain on the MENU.
    If the PC is Shutdown (or restarted) You will get a Logoff off message from that PC. "Music and Pictures" options on the MENU will go away (assuming only 1 PC connected). When the PC is rebooted, the "Music and Pictures" option will return.

    NOTE about TVersity. The most current version (0.9.11.2) has problems with settings (.XML sheet) for HR2X. On my setup, I changed the General Settings "Media Playback Device" to XBOX 360. BE SURE YOU CLICK SAVE at the bottom. This resolved my "X" in front of music files, but some report that this does not work. It is suggested that if this does not work for you, drop back the the previous release.

    :Editorial ON:
    I beleive that the software in the HR2X sets a configuration record at boot time. If it finds a Media Share server, it sets information about the connection. When the connection drops it remebers to listen for a reconnection.

    My problem of not having "Network UPnP User Interface" running caused the HR21 to Logoff after aprox 4 hours. The only way I could get reconnected was a HR2X reset/reboot.

    Now that I have UPnP User Interface, I do not logoff the media server until the server actually drops. And, most importantly, connection is automatically restored after the media server retruns.
    :Editorial Off:
     
  4. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Nice summary....thanks.
     
  5. Dec 3, 2007 #325 of 502
    jdspencer

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    I have successfully gotten WMP11 and TVersity to share photos to my HR20-100 with the info on the forum. Yay! :)

    The problem I have is with the HR20 interface. In that the HR20 tries to fill the entire preview pane with all of the photos regardless of which folder/subfolder is selected. If you have several subfolders, this can cause quite a delay. The interface should be similar to how you browse through folders on a PC. The HR20 shouldn't try to display any thumbnails until you have selected the folder you want.

    I know this is in Beta and will probably be in a future release. There is a lot of info here about networking, but I didn't/couldn't find any info about changes to the client side interface.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2007 #326 of 502
    Spanky_Partain

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    There are no user settings for this operation! Once the network is setup, that is it.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2007 #327 of 502
    ke3ju

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    I agree with you, the Music and Photos interface on the HR20 is garbage...they need to take a lesson from TiVo on this. I have an old SA Series 2 still activated and setup just for music and photos, until D* makes the HR20 work nicely.
     
  8. Dec 4, 2007 #328 of 502
    jdspencer

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    I'm not talking about the physical network, but the interface being used. This should be updated to somehting more user friendly in the next release.
     
  9. Dec 4, 2007 #329 of 502
    Spanky_Partain

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    Couldn't agree with you more.
     
  10. Dec 4, 2007 #330 of 502
    rlhammon

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    Still can not get WMP11 or TVersity (different thread, I know) to work with the HR-20. Not sure what the issue is, but when I go to share media and look for a device (under Tools -> Library in WMP11) nothing ever returns.

    I can see the HR-20 fine on the network, and VOD on the HR-20 works just fine. I might have to go back to using my old Haupaugge device that I stopped using a few years ago! Getting this feature on the HR-20 has not been easy...
     
  11. Dec 4, 2007 #331 of 502
    Spanky_Partain

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    No it is not. This thread is what got my WMP11 to work. You have to do all of it and be very diligent on the instructions.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90631
     
  12. Dec 5, 2007 #332 of 502
    rlhammon

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    Thanks.. but I've tried both methods there. I did not see the DRM error message in the services.msc file though. Still no clue what the issue is.

    I downloaded Nero demo last night, I'm going to see if the demo will work. Getting this to work on the PS3 was straight forward and easy... getting this working on the HR-20 (my preference) is a royal pain in the rump!

    Thanks for the tips, I do greatly appreciate them. I'll keep trying. :)
     
  13. Dec 6, 2007 #333 of 502
    burnside

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    I got my HR20-100 working last night on my network. It of course had x's all over the mp3s. Today I go back to check things out and now I can no longer see my files. The HR20 sees my computer, but once I choose it from their MediaShare screen, it waits about 30 seconds than says "Unable to access media.."

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks!
     
  14. Dec 7, 2007 #334 of 502
    Spanky_Partain

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    Either a firewall setting or the media server software stopped.
     
  15. Dec 9, 2007 #335 of 502
    RCKYMTN

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    I was successful in networking my HR20 to my computer last night with wmp11.

    The thread/site is awesome, and thanks to the first post on here and Spanky’s thread with everything linked and specs on various equipment. I have never set up a network before, and only previously had a lap top connected to the internet via a wireless modem to my main computer, needless to say I am novice at this. I liked the idea of having 4 ports on the bridge connected to the HR20 for later expansion, and it seemed that the Buffalo G54HP fit the bill per the specs Spanky gave. Went to CC yesterday, bought the Buffalo wireless-N Nfinity router, and the Buffalo Ethernet Bridge/Converter. Disabled the wireless on my modem, set up the router with no problems, then connected the Ethernet Bridge to an open port on the router, set up the bridge, upgraded the firmware to ver 2.53, etc – I am now a strong believer of Buffalo products, that process was seamless, and their products and support are awesome. (I was a little nervous when I came back from CC, went to Buffalo’s site, and the opening page mentioned their pending patent litigation, usa products on hold, etc, however the upgrades and downloads were still there, and had one question, and product support seemed readily available).

    One part of this whole process I was not sure of at the beginning or during the process was if I had to set up BOTH a network and wireless network in windows xp and run both of these wizards in xp, and which one should be run first, or if I only had to enable the media sharing in wmp11 and not run either of the wizards – again, a novice here. After the process was completed, it was apparent that the “network wizard” needed to be run to enable file and print sharing, but did I need to run the wireless network wizard in XP? My laptop and/or the bridge were already communicating with the new router and had internet access on all computers via the new wireless router (but no file sharing yet). If I did not need to set up /run the “wireless network” wizard in XP, can this be deleted, etc? I don’t see it anywhere in network places, etc, I only see the network set up via the regular network wizard. The name I used on that network was also the same name I gave when configuring wmp11, so I assumed running that “regular” network wizard was necessary for this purpose and to set up file sharing – correct?

    Then I connected the configured bridge to the HR20, clicked on network, etc, in the hr20 set up, then did a reset, followed the Networking Tips and Tricks linked by Spanky’s thread, to set up my existing version of wmp11, and everything was there, DOD, photos/music on menu, it all read my computer fine. I have not yet shut down the computer, but I assume when I reboot, everything will be fine.

    A couple more “novice” follow up questions (I am sure there will be more to follow)-

    The shared folders/files which I enabled file sharing on appear in both “my documents” and “my network places”, I assume these are the same or mirrored folders – does it matter which ones I save/copy or delete files to/from for later viewing via the HR20 – in the my docs folders or network places folders, or does it matter?

    Is Tversity worth trying and any benefits over wpm11 for media sharing, or should I just leave well enough alone?

    Per above, is it necesary for setting running the “wireless network” wizard in xp when my wireless router was already working/communicating for internet access with a laptop and the bridge?

    (I had set up/run the regular network wizard first, then the wireless network wizard second right after I had installed the new wireless router, but before configuring the bridge/converter)- not sure if this order was correct or necessary, but in the end, it worked.

    Obviously I could not have accomplished this set up, selecting equipment, searching, rereading threads without the suggestions and information provided here. I can now looking forward to DOD, media sharing etc on the new 52" sony xbr, and also have open ports on the bridge/converter for the soon to arrive bd/hd dvd player. Awesome, thanks!
     
  16. Dec 9, 2007 #336 of 502
    Spanky_Partain

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    You only need to run the wireless wizard on the XP system when/if you add a wireless card on it. Even then, the wireless card will most likely have its own management piece and it will not be required. The wireless piece will setup a management interface to manage the wireless portion of a wireless device on the system. It will show you a wireless network neighborhood so you can join different wireless networks and stats on the device. You will only do that if you have a wireless device installed in the PC.

    If you have the WMP11 working, then I would not bother with TVersity. I have tried setting TVersity up a few times and it seems to be rather persnickity.

    As far as the shared files/directories, if you delete/add files in one, it will be done in the other. Yes it is a mirror. So it does not matter which one you manage or use. They are the same.

    Sounds like you are set to go. Have fun and enjoy!
     
  17. Dec 9, 2007 #337 of 502
    ktabel01

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    I recently had to disconnect my HR 20 from my network. I was getting all kinds of problems with my internet connection being lost at my desktop. Usually could get it back by resetting the router and modem, sometimes needed a restart of the desktop. Seemed that it all started when I got my HR20 connected, so that was my first troubleshooting test. Well, been 72 hours and no internet drops, so it had to be the HR20. My question is, what kind of conflict could cause this. I was using a static IP address and sharing media via WMP11. Using a wireless printer server to connect my HR20
     
  18. Dec 9, 2007 #338 of 502
    bhelton71

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    I have never seen Tivo's Music and Photos - what are the differences ?
     
  19. Spanky_Partain

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    So is this a hack FW on the Tivo to get this to do music and photos or is it a OEM supported function?
     
  20. RCKYMTN

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    Trying to figure out which shared folders/files the hr20 will actually display (both photos and music). Seems like it will display photos or play music in folders that I have not enabled the share/network feature for that folder?

    Do I need to remove the folder from the library in wmp even if it is not a shared/network folder but the HR20 still sees it? Do I also need to delete that folder from the my network places if I no longer want the hr20 to play them? Or just include the photo/music folders I want the HR20 to see in the wmp library, regardless of the network sharing was enabled for that folder? Even if a folder such as "my pictures" was disabled in properties from network folder, the photos still showed up on the hr20 - thought the folder had to be networked for the hr20, but seems like the library in wmp determines what the hr20 reads? or just me getting confused and its too late. thanks..
     
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