Ive gathered up as much info as I have been able to, so Ill bug you all with the last few questions: 1: If I do a self install (buy a VIP211 and a 1000.4 dish) can I get a no-contract account? Will I still have to pay the $99 install fee even if I install myself? 2: Can I pay the $99 at any time to get free HD for life, or only when I start an account? 3: Can I get the promo $49 (250) package for a year without a contract, or would I have to pay the full $69/mo? 4: Can I opt out of getting locals (I have a nice OTA setup with Tivo already) and would never use locals from Dish. If so, what would the credit be? Now, I know you will wonder why I want to do it this way, and the main reason is its going to take some creativity to get 61.5 in my tree filled yard. 129 is out of the question. DirecTv would not even try, so I had to do it myself. I dont even want to mess with installers, and would not be able to take off work for it anyway. I plan to keep DirecTv through the NFL season, if I can get a deal from Dish, and make a decision on which one to drop next year.