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New Directv Prices

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by A_Bear, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. Jan 1, 2012 #381 of 809
    MysteryMan

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    I'm not sure if it's sad, comical, or both but there's a significant amount of people out there who don't completely understand HD technology and are under the impression that merely owning a HDTV is sufficient and think they are experiencing HD.
     
  2. Jan 1, 2012 #382 of 809
    Mike Bertelson

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    I know two guys as work who bought HDTVs but decided to wait on HD service. However, when they attached the coax they found they had all the basic HD channels. They get the basic tier channels and are watching HDTV.

    They have since upgraded to get all their usually channels in HD but I bet there are plenty of people out there who are getting HD...some of whom may not even realize it. They're looking at the picture and saying something like "this looks good enough so I'll wait to upgrade"... :grin:

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  3. Jan 1, 2012 #383 of 809
    n3vino

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    Leon...
    When I was a kid, we didn't have any local channels. Those that had TV's pulled them from southern cities over 100 miles away, or from a north city 100 miles away. Reception was good until 10:00 in the morning. Then there would be a lot of interference with the picture.

    Then a city nearby got a tv station. That's when my dad bought our first tv, a 21 inch black and white. Then little by little, two more stations came on the air, so we had three.

    What D* does is give me more channels to flip through. Like you, there are some that I might watch one of these days, but there others that I won't watch which I programmed out of my custom list, but still pay for.
     
  4. Jan 1, 2012 #384 of 809
    dpeters11

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    I know some people thought digital meant HD, and that it was part of the digital OTA conversion.

    Others just don't care. My father has HD service, but my mother is the only one that really uses it. He mostly watches MASH and Bonanza on an SD set in his den. He doesn't even know how to use the DVR, and doesn't care to.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2012 #385 of 809
    drx792

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    Drive around Orlando, I barely ever see SD Round dishes here. There are rows of slimlines though.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2012 #386 of 809
    n3vino

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    Leon...
    When I first got my HD tv, I got it more for the purpose of watching DVD's which came in widescreen. When my wife got me a DVD player one Xmas, I got two DVD's with it and they were widescreen. Watching them on a 35 inch analog tv, sucked. The player didn't zoom.

    I had cable and I upgraded to SD, but I didn't upgrade to HD for a pretty long while. I won't tell you what my thinking was at that time, because now that I look back, it was stupid. And I thought that the SD picture was o.k.

    Then I got laid off my job so in order to cut costs, I decided to downgrade to a package which didn't have any premium channels, but had HD. Best move I ever made. Now I hate to watch SD channels.

    So there are different reasons why people don't upgrade to HD, mostly cost. With cable, you have to subscribe to their digital package, which costs an arm and a leg, and also pay a monthly fee for a box. With D*, existing SD customers would most likely have to pay to upgrade their boxes and pay an HD fee on top of that.
     
  7. Jan 1, 2012 #387 of 809
    mreposter

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    Most cable systems also fail to combine SD and HD channels. For instance, on most Time Warner systems CNN SD is channel 350 and CNN HD is 1350 and on UVerse CNN SD is 202 and the HD version is on 1202. People have to learn to switch over to the HD channels and figure out which channels are in HD and which aren't.

    Directv is the rare provider that puts enough intellegence in the box to do the work for the viewer and make it easier to use the guide.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2012 #388 of 809
    dpeters11

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    Very true. One of the things a friend of mine hates about DirecTV.
     
  9. Jan 1, 2012 #389 of 809
    James Long

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    DirecTV isn't the only provider who mixes their HD in with their SD channels (HD in the guide on SD channel numbers, when available) ... so change that statement to "one of the rare providers" if you wish to be correct. :)
     
  10. Jan 1, 2012 #390 of 809
    Satelliteracer

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    I'd take it a step further. Think about all the customers that have a HD dish but still have at least 1, 2, 3, 4 SD televisions in the home. A TON of customers have an HD dish and ONE HD television, but the remaining televisions are SD and they are fine with that.

    SD will be around for quite some time. Years.
     
  11. Jan 1, 2012 #391 of 809
    Nighthawk68

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    And how many people have the SD televisions in the kids room, this channel is perfect for this setup.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2012 #392 of 809
    mva5580

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    I came here considering signing back up for DTV again but after reading all of this stuff......screw it. All I watch on TV is sports and stuff that I have access to on Hulu and OTA. I was considering going back to DTV because I've been a bit frustrated with OTA antenna giving me some issues and ESPN3.com not always having a great HD signal but all of that stuff for free is still worth dealing with for me than having to pay all these asinine fees, deal with different program structures, etc. What a total joke. Talk about companies that just 100% have their customers by the balls.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2012 #393 of 809
    jamieh1

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    Atleast now days with digital over the air tv you do have a little more choice for free tv. So if things get to bad Ill have some free tv.

    Most stations now offer sub channels. When I was growing up, there were 3 channels.
    CBS NBC and ABC.
    Now in my area which is DMA #99 we have the following channel over the air.

    2.1 UNC HD(PBS)
    2.2 UNC KD (KIDS)
    2.3 UNC EX (EXPLORER CHANNEL)

    7.1 WITN NBC HD
    7.2 MY NETWORK TV- ME TV
    7.3 RADAR

    8.1 WFXI FOX HD
    8.2 WFXI BOUNCE TV

    9.1 WNCT CBS HD
    9.2 THE CW

    12.1 WCTI ABC HD
    12.2 LIVE WELL NETWORK
    12.3 THIS TV

    14.1 WYDO FOX HD
    14.2 WYDO BOUNCE TV

    19.1 UNC HD
    19.2 UNC EXPLORER CHANNEL
    19.3 UNC KIDS

    25.1 UNC HD
    25.2 UNC KIDS
    25.3 UNC EXPLORER CHANNEL

    38.1 WEPX ION HD
    38.2 WEPX QUBO
    38.3 WEPX ION LIFE
     
  14. Jan 1, 2012 #394 of 809
    dpeters11

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    It would be worse if they only had one package plan. As for fees, they certainly aren't the worst.
     
  15. Jan 1, 2012 #395 of 809
    TBlazer07

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    Slimline dishes don't necessarily equate to hd installations. Any install, even all sd gear will likely get a slimline dish. I doubt they would install round dishes anymore even if you got an all sd equipment install.
     
  16. Jan 1, 2012 #396 of 809
    Shades228

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    Negative if you don't get HD you don't get a slimline dish.
     
  17. Jan 2, 2012 #397 of 809
    Satelliteracer

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    Still install round dishes. The cost difference between an 18" round and a slimline is considerable.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2012 #398 of 809
    TBlazer07

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    I find that really surprising. Even if the round is cheaper compare that to the cost of going back a 2nd time for a lot of these installs for upgrades. The cost of each single return call for an upgrade (parts & labor) would have to make up for quite a number of the cost differences between SD and HD if the slimline were the "standard." I can't imaging there being THAT much of a difference between cost of the 2 dishes considering the large quantity that are being purchased by the install company. Maybe once they use up existing inventories they'll just go SL.
     
  19. Jan 2, 2012 #399 of 809
    carl6

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    No expectation of going back a second time.
    That suggests there are still a LOT of SD installs. If it is only a $1 differential, a million such installs is still a million dollars.

    What it tells me is that there are no plans at this point in time to stop mpeg2 and SD distribution. Why spend extra money on an SD install when it can easily last for a decade or more? It also tells me there are still a lot of SD installs where you only need 101.
     
  20. Jan 2, 2012 #400 of 809
    WebTraveler

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    Thanks, yes I goofed on posting one of the prices. Key to all of this is HOW the $10 HD rebate will continue to be after Summer 2012.

    Also key for me is where the Pac 12 network ends up at in the packages.....I cannot imagine Directv won't carry.....the sports leader will fall overnight.....

     

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