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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by A_Bear, Dec 23, 2011.
Satellite racer made it sound like espn would still be there.
It appears that in the past few years, prices all over (not just DirecTV, but Time Warner Cable and I'm sure Dish Network as well, and there shouldn't be a single company out there that ISN'T) keeps on increasing at least three dollars.
Now think about it. Let's say it started 5 years ago (I know it's been longer than that). Think, 5 years from now. Everybody will have been paying $30 more than they did 10 years earlier. This isn't right. Not right at all. COLA has increased and yet not many have income increase.
Think of it this way. In 10 years span, people will have paid at least $30 more than they did in the beginning. That isn't right.
The tiny system on my house will generate electricity for less than half of 25 cents / hour -- before accounting for tax credits and feed-through tariffs. I submit your information is out of date. There are also wind projects that are in single-digit pennies per kilowatt/hour. http://cleantechnica.com/2011/05/01...tural-gas-could-power-your-ev-for-0-70gallon/
I have no idea what this has to do with DirecTV and I'm not anti-carbon-based fuels as we need them for at least another couple of generations, but I find the facile dispensing of non-facts troublesome. So, sorry.
the answer to your question is NO, you will get the family channels that are included in that package (and what hd channels that also fall in that package)
and the hd extra pack inclues as follows
hd extra pack only includes the following
Channel Range: 560 - 568
Crime & Investigation
Hallmark Movie Channel
Sony Movie Channel
Well, aside from the fact that I worked in the industry and was CFO of a cable company.... And aside from the fact that this is a well known fact... And aside from the fact that I'm being incredibly arrogant in this answer because I'm tired of being challenged when I present facts...
"The fastest-growing expense is programming. The money the cable operators pay for the rights to channels like MTV, CNN and ESPN eats up just under $4 of every $10 they take in selling video service. Programming cost $1.0 billion at Time Warner in the first quarter, up 8 percent. At Comcast, programming cost $1.8 billion, up 9.6 percent. "
"According to Matthew Harrigan at Wunderlich Securites, in 2009 DirecTV paid approximately $37/sub out of an ARPU of $85/sub to content owners for programming costs (i.e. affiliate fees). In this case, affiliate fees represent roughly 43% of total revenue for DirecTV. Similarly for Comcast, Matthew estimates programming costs at 37% of video revenue (Comcast has high-speed data and voice revenue that are separate). "
And there you have it. If your bill was $100, their programming costs were very approximately $40. If their programming costs went up 10% as they say -- which I don't doubt -- that's about $4 per month. They passed 100% of their increases on to you. Don't be naive and think otherwise.
I could only read a few pages on the phone so I figured I would cut to the chase.
Yes, programming costs are going up about 10% this year. Price increases about 4% on average for customers. Programming costs are the largest line item in Directv's budget. Billions of dollars.
Choice Xtra and Total Choice Plus customers will be merged into one package called Choice Xtra Classic. Both packages have the same channels. A new Choice Xtra will launch in Feb that is different than the current Choice Xtra. The reality is that the cost of programming continues to climb at such a steep pace that channel lineups are changing. Some channels will be moved to higher tiered packages because they are over distributed at the price they are valued at considering who is watching. In other words, they are more niche and should be available on a higher tiered packages to try and contain costs and the prices Directv needs to charge.
HD extra Pack is not going up in price. None of the premiums are increasing, though Premier base package is going up ( it includes premiums). Most bills will go up between $3 and $4. There are certainly customers that will see higher increases and many that will see less than that.
Based on what I have seen of price increases from Some of the cable and Telco companies etc, , this far, looks like Directv is very much in line with the competition. Everyone is being hit with major programming cost increases. When you see ESPN spending billions of dollars for Monday Night Football, that cost ultimately comes to customers of pay television. The network deals, the retrans deals, the premium increases each year, etc, etc. all contribute to huge cost increases each year
I blame it on the 50k+ people who became irate when Fox threatened DTV last month, and they all demanded they suck it up and give it in. They gave in, and you're paying for it. Enjoy!
Not if Directv gave them the middle finger and only came to a new agreement if they agreed to go in a higher tier or lower their price. At some point the battle with these channels has to happen. I don't want to see a $100 basic package cost one day and still be paying for HD, DVR, and box fees on top of that. Can you shed any light on the entertainment package Sat Racer?
Today via email I received the official notification from DIRECTV of the February 2012 rate changes. Here's their PDF:
ESPN should be broken out of all the packages and made a premium service just like HBO is.
How about DNS feeds?
Is there any increase there?
~Alan<~~~~~~~Hoping the answer is no...
Satelliteracer: Can you address why DIRECTV continues to charge an HD access fee when many other providers do not? (For example, my local cable provider is Cablevision. All customers have access to SD and HD channels in all of their subscription packages, with no added fee for HD.)
DIRECTV has negotiated with most content providers to supply SD and HD channels and rates have gone up, as reflected in the rate increases. Why do HD users get "penalized" for wanting to watch HD - shouldn't the cost be built in to the base package price negotiated with the content providers?
This is my personal fear.
In order to get the channels I want, I have to pay considerable money for channels I don't want in base packages in order to get the more "niche" channels I do want.
Eventually, I'm either going to have to sacrifice some channels I enjoy in order to keep enjoying others, or I'm simply going to reach a point where I find it's not worth the costs to enjoy any of it... :nono2:
I remember when I signed up for two free years of "free HD." I was told that when my two years was up, I could get it again because DirecTV was working on something. My two years is up next year...
Then switch to Choice Xtra before February when it becomes "classic"
I don't think HD users are being penalized. I think SD users are getting a benefit. If they did away with the HD fee, I would bet that all packages would go up that same $10. In other words, HD users would pay the same, but SD users would have a $10 increase.
I'm on Choice Xtra...
I'm interested in hearing about "Entertainment" though...
Don't some cable companies charge extra for HD STBs over their SD STBs?
~Alan<~~~~~~~~Not particularly knowledgeable when it comes to cablecos...
They are all different, even the same company in different towns. Here is my town, Comcast (Xfinity) charges for the package and up to 3 standard def "converters" included. Each HD box or cablecard costs $8.50 per outlet, HD DVR costs $17.95 per outlet.
So my cost, assuming the package price is the same (they are close) would be $17 extra for my two HD Tivo's plus $8.50 for the spare room receiver: $25.50
DirecTv is $10 HD + $12 for the other two rooms, or $22.00 (and right now I am getting the $10 HD free).
Good point about that ... for a while all new customers were given "free HD for life" while existing customers who called in were offered "free HD for 2 years". It will be interesting to see what kind of offer is still on the table when many of these latter customers reach their 2 year mark in 2012. Obviously the HD Access Fee (now the "Advanced Receiver-HD" fee) is not going away ...
I didn't know what to call it, but "penalized" seemed to work because the HD customers have to pay more upfront to acquire HD equipment than the SD customers, and HD customers end up paying $120 more annually than SD customers to be able to tune to HD channels that were most likely bundled as SD and HD channels by the content providers.
Other providers, like Cablevision, face the same choices when negotiating their packages but charge all customers the same package price with no HD access fee. To me that seems like a penalty on the DIRECTV HD customers...