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New Dish customer needs advice

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by johnzim63, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:02 AM.

  1. johnzim63

    johnzim63 AllStar

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    Hi Dish people! I've been with Directv for 15+ years, but I've finally grown tired of their price gouging. My new install is scheduled for monday, 10/15, so I need some quick advice.
    Should I let them go ahead with the Hopper w/Sling, or should I insist on the Hopper 3? I have only 2 tv's, so their call guide/discussion flowchart steered the agent away from Hopper 3. Is the HwS really outdated technology, or is it fine for a 42" tv of dubious quality? Thanks!!
     
  2. P Smith

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    look at it as start 5-10 years using DVR, not the moment install… H2 is old and slow with new GUI...

    I would go with H3,
    pretty soon you could change your TV to UHD model and will enjoy 4k channels/program/movies
     
  3. patmurphey

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    Make your deal on the phone and tell them you are buying a 4k TV for Christmas. Demand a Hopper3. It's worth it even if it costs a bit more up front.
     
  4. RBA

    RBA Well-Known Member

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    It will probably cost you $100 to upgrade to the Hopper 3. If you want the free system accept the HWS. For 2 TVs you could also use a Hopper Duo that seems to be forgotten
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I recommend forgetting about the Hopper Duo. It is good for low credit low budget SD customers, but the regular Hopper/Joey setup provides a better system. Get a Hopper 3 for 4K (add Joey 4K if the second set may be 4K in the future).
     
  6. dmspen

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    The H3 is much faster than the H2. Definitely worth the upgrade price. Not to mention 16 tuners.
     
  7. johnzim63

    johnzim63 AllStar

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    Thanks for all the advice. Is the HwS the same as Hopper duo? I'm not familiar with the models, except for what I've read. They were offering an H3 for $50 up front, which seems to be a good deal; not sure how it would hit the monthly bill. But maybe that $50 upgrade is an older model with the slower chipset? Not sure that matters for me.
     
  8. dennispap

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    I have a hws. Take the H3 for 50.00 I have been trying to upgrade to a h3 and they want to charge me 150.00
     
  9. scooper

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    NEGATIVE !

    What is available in the Hopper line -
    Original Hopper (3 tuners)
    Hopper with Sling (3 tuners)
    Hopper 3 (16 tuners)
    Hopper Duo (2 tuners and supports only 1 Joey)
    All of these should also support the single or Dual OTA tuner modules
    There are also several versions of Joeys. Later versions are better.
     
  10. TheGrove

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    No difference. The monthly charge for all DVR's is the same.
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    take it while it's on a table !
     
  12. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

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    The $50 deal for Hopper3 is the real deal - there is no "older model" Hopper3. Monthly charge for Hopper3 is exactly the same as HWS. Hopper Duo is a crippled, cheaper option for those with cost issues.
     
  13. johnzim63

    johnzim63 AllStar

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    Thx guys. I did it! I called and upgraded my new install to an H3 and a Joey3.
    $50 seems like a steal. They would have thrown in a $25 gift card, too, but I forgot to insist. Oh well, still very happy.
     
  14. johnzim63

    johnzim63 AllStar

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    So. Now I'm wondering if the new DISH antenna can be installed in the same spot as the existing Directv antenna. Do they need about the same sky visibility?
     
  15. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    It depends on where you are. The "Western Arc" satellites are further west than DIRECTV (110-119-129 instead of 99-101-103 + 110-119 for some customers). "Eastern Arc" satellites are to the east (61.5-72.7 + 77).
     
  16. scooper

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    To add to James answer, it also depends on your LOS to the satellites you will need. If you could tell us which locals you are supposed to get, we could tell you what the likely sats will be.
     
  17. johnzim63

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    I live near Buffalo NY.
     
  18. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Buffalo is Eastern Arc ... so the DISH dish will be pointing south-southeast instead of southwest.
    You can use DishPointer and select "DISH 1000.4" near the bottom of the list for a preview.
     

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