New fee???!!! (Regional Sports Fee Expansion)

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  1. Mar 5, 2014 #41 of 217
    jeffgbailey

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    interesting as I checked a friends zip and she gets CSN Chicago (she's in Eastern Iowa) but has a 0.00 fee
     
  2. Mar 5, 2014 #42 of 217
    jeffgbailey

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    Pac12 is college so that is exempt.

    There are 4 RSN's in the LA area
    FSN West
    Prime Ticket (formerly FSN West 2)
    Sportsnet LA
    TWCS LA (Lakers)

    Technically you could say 5 as you also get the spanish version of TWCS LA
     
  3. Mar 5, 2014 #43 of 217
    capnp72

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    I think if you receive the channel and people are charged a fee for that channel then everyone who receives it should be charged the fee regardless of how far they are from the origin.
     
  4. Mar 5, 2014 #44 of 217
    James Long

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    She may be far enough out that she is affected by blackouts and can't get all of the CSN Chicago content.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2014 #45 of 217
    slice1900

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    The entire state of Iowa is claimed by the Brewers, Cardinals, Cubs, Royals, Twins and White Sox, and is thus is affected by blackouts for all six! Similar "claims" apply for football and basketball.

    The area a RSN charges higher fees for is a lot smaller, however, so Iowa is within the "out of market" range for all RSNs. That's why she doesn't pay the extra RSN fee.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2014 #46 of 217
    JoeTheDragon

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    and that may be why CSN Houston is in the mess it's in now.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2014 #47 of 217
    Jason Whiddon

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    FWIW I checked mine for Mobile, Alabama, and its $0.00.
     
  8. Mar 6, 2014 #48 of 217
    slice1900

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    Alabama would be in the same boat as Iowa. No pro teams call the state home, so while several teams probably claim you as theirs, you're well outside the area where RSNs charge higher fees.
     
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  9. Mar 6, 2014 #49 of 217
    Jason Whiddon

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    I figured the "Caint's" would try :)
     
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  10. Mar 6, 2014 #50 of 217
    VLaslow

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    I can hardly wait to add the Dodgers to my RSN fees. I'll chalk it up to never having to see them on LA Local Channel 9 again (along with the Lakers).
     
  11. Mar 7, 2014 #51 of 217
    Cyber36

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    Yeah, but it isn't like I can watch everything they offer @ all times due to the lovely blackout rules.
     
  12. Mar 7, 2014 #52 of 217
    jeffgbailey

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    according to the RSN look up she gets all 4 chicago teams in choice package
    if she adds sports pack (or premier) she would get FS North (Twins, WOlves), FS WIsco (Brewers), FS Midwest (Cards, Blues) and FS KC (Royals)

    Dont understand why the MN Wild wouldnt claim that area too
     
  13. Mar 7, 2014 #53 of 217
    KyL416

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    When I put in the zip code for Byron, NY it shows that you're also in the territory for Sabres along with the Indians if you have Choice Xtra or higher.

    Looking at the RSN fee lookup tool, your's is $3, but if I put in a zip code that's within the NYC DMA it's $3.63
    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/rsn_fee
     
  14. Mar 8, 2014 #54 of 217
    ThomasM

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    You think the "regional sports fee" is a ripoff? I read that Time-Warner cable is adding a "BROADCAST channel fee" of $2.25 because they have to pay so much to carry over-the-air channels!!!

    These are all gimicks designed by the creative gougers at subscription TV services to raise the price while still being able to advertise packages in huge fonts only to have unsuspecting subscribers get a big surprise when that first bill arrives. Another reason to "cut the cord" which I am seriously considering after this latest HIGHER THAN NORMAL DirecTV price hike.
     
  15. Mar 8, 2014 #55 of 217
    inkahauts

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    It's a nice way for marketing to do that yes. It's also a good way to show existing customers where Some if these ridiculous increases are coming from.
     
  16. Mar 8, 2014 #56 of 217
    James Long

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    If the government ever intervenes I'd like them to require cable and satellite to clearly disclose fees such as this in advertising.

    I'll give Comcast credit for their disclosure ... their big print national introductory prices are valid for the introductory period regardless of what community one is in. The prices do not diverge into the more expensive in some areas, less expensive in other (but much more expensive than introductory prices) until the introductory price ends.

    The only fees that should be added to an advertised price are things like taxes and regulatory fees that are outside of the cable/satellite operator's control. The RSN fee is set by the cable/satellite operator. This "broadcast channel fee" is set by the cable/satellite operator. In both cases it is a fee THEY choose to charge, where to charge and how much to charge. They should either eat local variences for the introductory period (as Comcast does) or advertise it as part of their prices.

    DirecTV does a good job of disclosing their RSN fee on checkout on their online ordering system ... but I'm not sure people realize 100% that it is a DirecTV fee and not something imposed on all cable/satellite companies. It looks like one of those "regulatory recovery fees" that the cell carriers added a few years back. The more cable/satellite makes the fee look like it was something imposed on them and a fee that is out of their control, the more they intentionally confuse their customers.
     
  17. Mar 10, 2014 #57 of 217
    Satelliteracer

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    Not a gimmick at all. That $2.25 they are charging, I can practically guarantee you they are losing more on that then they are taking in. The amount of money to carry local channels now because of retrans fees exceeds that cost in many markets. They're just trying to scrape some of it back and to show the customers where these costs are coming from. The RSN fees, in some markets they can be well north of $10....well north of it, yet the most you ever see charged is under $4.
     
  18. Mar 10, 2014 #58 of 217
    Marvin

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    I'm pretty surprised I'm not being charged since I get 2 RSN's (comcast DC and MASN). I'd be pretty mad if I had to pay for them, especially MASN from October to March since its virtually a simulcast of ESPN for most of the day.
     
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    lokar

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    Satracer, can you comment on why D* forces subscribers to pay for their LiL local channels. I and I'm sure many others get my locals OTA with an antenna just fine. I would think it's to D*'s advantage to have me do this and make subscribers who need locals via sat pay an extra fee to cover D*'s retrans costs. Yet D* actively discourages this by charging people for locals no matter what and going so far as to take OTA capabilities off of their DVRs. D* should be offering to buy everyone antennas and they would probably save money.
     

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