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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by raott, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Mar 7, 2018 #941 of 1930
    dminches

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    This can be done by:

    LIST > arrow down to Manage Recordings, SELECT.
    Arrow down to Playlist Share Settings, SELECT.
    Top item is "Show recordings from" and you can choose "All locations" or "This Location"

    However, for some reason I can do this on my Genie (HR-54) but not my mini (C6K).
     
  2. Mar 8, 2018 #942 of 1930
    bananfish

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    Just got the new UI on my HR44. Bleeeccchh.

    My partial list of complaints:

    1) Smaller fonts on the Menu and other places. My eyes cannot comfortably see the information - what I can see I have to strain to see, and that ain't good.

    2) Playlist and other items are now graphical rather than a list. Hate it. I am an adult, I can read. Now I have to scroll to the right and try to figure out what the picture means? Yeah, I can make two extra button-presses and get to a listed playlist, but that is a pain ... bringing me to ...

    3) Giant highlighted item in the Playlist list. When I want to see my list of recordings, I do NOT need one of them highlighted, with really no useful information. It also seems to have at least one item below and above the highlighted item, making it extremely difficult to quickly scan through the list. I also hate that when you move a full page by using the channel buttons, the highlighted item actually scrolls through all the intervening items - very distracting to the eyes when trying to scan through quickly. Has noone learned anything from the success of the simplicity and minimalism of the Google search page?

    4) Inability to identify new episodes. I have three episodes of Modern Family recorded, 1 new episode and 2 newly recorded old episodes. Of all the info they show for the highlighted program, the first air date is not among it. That risks me deleting new programs rather than older programs.

    5) Inability to delete programs. This one must actually be a bug. It appears that I literally cannot delete at least two of the Modern Family episodes. The highlighted item says "Press [red dot] to Delete." I believe that means the Record button, but could mean the red button on my Harmony remote. Does not matter which it means because neither one of them does a thing when I press it. [Anyone have a way for me to delete these programs?]

    6) To Do list. Where the heck is it? (15 minutes later: After a lot of hunting, I finally found it. Could they have made it any more inconvenient to find and get to? They made all the navigation issues worse, while making nothing better.)

    That is just what I have come up with in the first 20 minutes of use. I am sure I will come up with a lot more. What a sh**show. And of course, nothing that I have been complaining about for years will have been fixed (Channels I Get, sports team recordings, the Pandora bug that cuts many songs off way early, etc. etc.)
     
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  3. Mar 8, 2018 #943 of 1930
    makaiguy

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    Damn. I was hoping they'd stopped rolling out to 44's. Considering myself very lucky I haven't received it yet. I suppose we'll all learn to live with it eventually but it could be painful.
     
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  4. Mar 8, 2018 #944 of 1930
    inkahauts

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    To delete it’s the same as it’s always been... the red button...

    Playlist is only graphical in the menu. Just hit list on the remote and go strait to it. Not sure why people go to the menu hardly ever.

    The playlist itself has the same info plus one additional line than the old one. The difference is the info is no long on the top but rather floats with the highlight. Totally stupid but doesn’t affect how much info is on screen.

    As always if you’ve watched a show it’s a different shade...

    And you should see season and episode info for all shows or record date. One or the other. Oad is on the more info screen which has actually always been the case.

    To do list is placed in a lot more logical place now if you ask me. You access it from the playlist as you have found. I think that’s jarring only because you aren’t used to it. Just hit list left arrow and down channel and right arrow and select it. Less buttons than the old GUI.

    Nothing has changed for sports records or cig or pandora as far as I know.

    To me the GUI got better in some ways (one button press to get alphabetical and easily filter playlist and more items in playlist and lines in guide) but got worse in other ways ( who the heck ever thought floating boxes is a good idea???)
     
  5. Mar 9, 2018 #945 of 1930
    reubenray

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    Ditto!!
     
  6. Mar 9, 2018 #946 of 1930
    Steveknj

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    I'm starting to come around to some of this, especially the ToDo list. Really it makes sense to be in the List screen, and even better, you can hit the Ch Down button and it takes you a full screen down so it's two buttons on Play List menu, left arrow to get to the options screen and page down to get to the bottom of that screen which is the ToDo list. I'm thinking of creating a macro on my remote to get there easily on my Harmony. There are definite improvements on the List page and if they get rid of the floating info box it would actually be about perfect. I love having the season and Episode info on the list AND having the little progress bar so you know about how much of something you've watched. I also like that if you have only watched a portion of a show it stays bright white instead of grey.

    Still hate the dull color scheme (looking at the old list on one of my HR2x it's much bolder looking), Hate that they took way the color button functionality (which I know isn't on the new remotes, but still functioned until the new GUI) The bolder / thicker scroll bar is not great, and I find it a pain to navigate through the main menu screen to get to settings.
     
  7. Mar 9, 2018 #947 of 1930
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    One thing I haven't figured out. On the old GUI Guide, you could hit the yellow button and get a list of guide options. From there, you could jump to a future date and time. Is that function gone, or have I just not found it yet? For example, say it is Saturday and you want to see the guide for the following Friday. Thanks for any info.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2018 #948 of 1930
    dminches

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    Just hit “0” while you are in the guide and you get the same menu.
     
  9. Mar 9, 2018 #949 of 1930
    dminches

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    I don’t dislike the new interface as much as others do but one thing I do not like is that the channel number, station and current program aren’t near one another when you hit info or you are scrolling through channels. They stuck the channel and station all the way to the right while the program is on the left. I prefer to see all of them at once and not have to shift my eyes left to right.
     
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  10. Mar 9, 2018 #950 of 1930
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    And you are correct of course. Thanks. Apparently when I was checking out the new GUI the guide had not fully populated. The options are all there now.
     
  11. Mar 11, 2018 #951 of 1930
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    How do I mark multiple recordings to delete in my playlist? I can't figure out how to get to the screen that lists all my recordings with a check box I can select to delete. I think with the old gui I used the dash to get to this mark recordings to delete mode.
     
  12. Mar 14, 2018 #952 of 1930
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    Just got the new one last night and does it take a bit for the "TO-Do" list to reload? I know there are some more of my shows coming up and the guide is showing 0. Or did they change it so it only shows this weeks shows and not next week as well? ox1037

    Thanks :)
     
  13. Mar 14, 2018 #953 of 1930
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    The To Do List is always slow after a reset of the receiver. Can take up to 48 hours for it to fully populate.
     
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  14. Mar 15, 2018 #954 of 1930
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    We got the new guide today in Houston and all I heard was the wife yelling from across the house saying OMG, this is awful. I only glanced at it as I walked through the room, but my first impression of the guide was that I was looking at a copy of the Time Warner interface from their cable boxes. I also thought the shaded area in the guide that I guess is supposed to show me the current time, was a little silly. On a quick glance, it just made a dark interface that much darker. I'll have to take it on a better test drive later. I just hope it doesn't kill the performance on the box like the HD GUI did after the upgrade from the old SD GUI. I'd still go back to that GUI in a hearbeat if they made it available. To me the old SD GUI was far easier to read than this or any previous version of the HD GUI.

    I also saw what you guys were talking about with the gynormous block across the bottom of the screen when you hit play or FF during a program. That's just silly.

    OMG, someone please tell me I can get rid of this new "On-Demand" look and feel to my play-list. They took a perfectly simple list of recordings and turned it into a giant mess of extra junk.
     
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  15. Mar 15, 2018 #955 of 1930
    Leftcoastdave

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    Respectfully I must disagree. An earlier poster is right. Burying the to-do list under the playlist is ridiculous. For many years the to-do list was a sub menu under recordings. Logical since the to-do list is a list of pending recordings. And that floating box in the playlist itself is distracting and unnecessary. Vanilla line items are far easier to scroll.

    Apologies in advance but I want to get on a soapbox for a few minutes.

    I have been a user of these technologies since the first release of ReplayTV in 1999. I have been through all of the iterations - Replay, Tivo, Dish/Directv. I participated in DIRECTV's beta test of whole home years ago. Coincidentally, I managed several customer support groups for a large US multinational corporation in the 1960's - 1990's. The point being I have lived with this tech for more than 50 years in one form or another.

    There is a basic truth that if an engineer designs something, he will design it so that it makes sense to another engineer. To counter this designers need to form focus groups and beta test new tech to be sure it is intuitive and user friendly. (Captain Obvious speaking here).

    That said, if they beta tested this new menu system they either did a crappy job or they didn't understand the feedback they got. There are simple ways to rectify this mess. Design additional or alternate ways to access the menu for both legacy users and newbies. It does not need to be my way or the highway.

    Suggestion #1: Add a to-do submenu under recordings like it used to be. Leave the existing path thru list>manage>to-do the way it is. Hence we would have 2 ways to fetch the to-do list.

    Suggestion #2: Add a programmable 3x3 matrix of user designated quick links. The arrow up button which allows us to program 9 quick channel links of our own choosing would be the perfect model. One poster suggested macro-izing his Harmony remote. Good idea. A "roll your own" Quick Link matrix could do the same thing and lo and behold, my wife could actually use this menu. As it is now, she would not touch it.

    Thanks for listening.

    Dave
     
  16. Mar 15, 2018 #956 of 1930
    TheRatPatrol

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    Or better yet (something I’ve been saying for years on here) make a double tap of the LIST button (LIST>LIST) a shortcut to the TODO List. After all, its a list too.
     
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  17. Mar 16, 2018 #957 of 1930
    Leftcoastdave

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    Great idea. Intuitive and consistent with new menus. Doesn't it make you wonder if anyone is listening?
     
  18. Mar 16, 2018 #958 of 1930
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    Love this idea, and it makes a lot of sense. So it will never happen :) FWIW, I created a macro on my Harmony Remote to bring me to the ToDo list. It sorta works (still have to work out some issues with it), but I like the idea of one touch ToDo list (or double tap). I know some veterans here "never use it" but I frequently do (viva la difference!) It's a great way to see what is planned to be recorded that day or in the coming time period. It helps me plan what to watch and when to watch it. So it's something that's important to me to get to. I don't mind that it moved to the List area, in that it's related to what has already been recorded. It was just a matter or retraining myself. I can do that. But, I would much prefer an easier way to get there, and the double tap the List button is a great way to do it (and we know the trend is LESS buttons on the remote).
     
  19. Mar 18, 2018 #959 of 1930
    SknowSurfer

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    Does anyone else notice how slow the response to button push time is? The big problem I have with the new UI is that it is SLOW to respond to the buttons. I understand the change, they rolled out DirecTV Now and the UI has to be manipulated using a remote that interacts with FireTV and Roku etc. Since I have to use a menu that is designed for NOW, I might as well cancel directv and sign up for now. Doing that tomorrow!
     
  20. Mar 18, 2018 #960 of 1930
    dbronstein

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    What do you mean by this? If I press list, or go to the list through menu it looks exactly the same.

    The only thing that really bugs me is the gray/black area that covers the bottom quarter of the screen when you skip/ff/rewind.
     

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