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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by raott, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Steveknj

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    I have been a software tester (as one of my jobs) at various companies and I agree, you can't please everyone. That's why I think they need to focus on the the things that seem to be universally hated. And they need to fix bugs. The other things they can attack at some point later. The thing that bothers me most is that the types of things they changed were things that everyone seemed to like and were not broken and could have easily been coded into the current GUI.
     
  2. Steveknj

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    Is this what most folks currently call cord cutting "streaming" services such as DirecTV NOW (and SlingTV and others)? Or is this a new protocol that will be used to replace how we get TV currently (not through SAT but through the internet)? If it's the former, why would that effect when we would receiver the C71k and so forth? If it's the latter, then it seems I'm right in AT&T eventually abandoning SAT TV in favor of streaming (and with that, my assumption is that this purchase was just a subscriber grab to push us over to streaming platform).
     
  3. P Smith

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    there is new thread about it 0 take a look
    AT&T To Launch Full DTV Using The Internet This Fall
     
  4. Steveknj

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    Yep read a similar article at lunch. So yeah, they are almost certainly going to phase out SAT service in the next 5 years. People will jump at the cheaper service. And with them essentially rewriting the rules with the new service, a lot of the things we are taking for granted will be going away. I fully expect that DVRs that will not be able to skip ads will be coming. I expect a cloud based DVR that we will be paying for space and limit how long we can keep stuff, like they are doing with NOW (and it seems that the cloud DVR iS NOT going to allow ad skipping as per the link above, so here we go). I'm not optimistic that this all will be better than what we have now. I have also been predicting that "cord cutting" will end up costing the consumer about the same and eventually more than what we pay now for SAT when you factor in all you need to get to duplicate the services. Right now I think the deal look "cheap" but you get much less.
     
  5. CTJon

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    I got the update last night - also this AM when I turned my HR44 on it gave me a message that it couldn't connect to my wireless bridge. After checking all my cables and rebooting all I called DirecTV The woman did something and my bridge started working. She told me at least 3 times that they would be rolling out updates to the new GUI starting this summer and not fully until 2019 She also wanted to text me that updates were coming. So they obviously know there are issues and many issues.
    I have, so far, found the GUI usable but ugly and??? Why would they do this? I see nothing that is a benefit or improvement. Not that they are the only company that has done this but I'd really question why and who actually approved rolling this out to the general public.
     
  6. TheRatPatrol

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    Does the W mean wireless?
     
  7. slice1900

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    Again, AT&T has zero incentive to push existing customers off satellite! The average bill for satellite customers is something like $128 these days, what would they gain by switching them to a service that they plan to sell for $80-$90? The content costs the same either way, and it doesn't save them any money on delivery because moving you off satellite doesn't give them money back on the satellites they already have in orbit.

    They can talk all they want about reducing cost due to no truck rolls etc. but that stuff doesn't matter for customers they already have. Those savings will only materialize for new customer signups - if they really think that once everything is added up it is more profitable to sign up new customers on IPTV rather than satellite then that will be what they try to push when new customers sign up - sort of like how they push Directv not Uverse TV to new TV customers in AT&T areas.
     
  8. slice1900

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    When I referred to 'IPTV' I was talking about Directv's new "Directv satellite, but over the internet" to distinguish it from Directv Now. IPTV typically refers to "managed" TV offerings (i.e. delivered to company owned boxes) while OTT or streaming is used more to refer to delivering to computers, phones or other customer owned devices.
     
  9. slice1900

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    The C71KW has both wireless and an RJ45 port, and does 4K, so it is kind of a jack of all trades. Maybe the cost difference in supporting HD vs 4K and wireless vs wired boxes isn't worth it to them, and it will be the only one they have. Or maybe this is all they have for early testing, and there will be a C71 for the non-wireless non-4K needs eventually.
     
  10. TheRatPatrol

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    So it’s either wireless or ethernet, no coax?
     
  11. inkahauts

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    Sadly, being able to tell what’s been see is so much better today than it was before... scary I know....

    I hate the floating box. Like I have said elsewhere someone should be removed from their position that approved that.

    Auto play has been there for over a year... I like it but what’s wrong with a dang option to turn it on and off like all the other streamers. I have no doubt it’s there because Netflix added it ages ago.

    I’d say we agree... a couple people have complained about having a nice set of filters on the left, and that I don’t understand.
     
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  12. inkahauts

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    Not a chance sat service is gone in five years.. not one. In fact it won’t be even close to gone in ten...
     
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  13. KDelande

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    I've rebooted all of my boxes and still can't see content on my HR44 (with new GUI build 1037) from any other receiver, but the others can see content on the HR44 just fine.

    Bug?
     
  14. catocony

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    A lot of people who use DirecTV do not have broadband at home. Many who do have broadband have older, smaller bandwidth services, or they're using LTE or other cell services for their data needs. Not everyone has cable run to their homes, not everyone is close enough to a CO/datacenter/switch to get digital services over phone wiring. Verizon isn't going to run FIOS to a home 10 miles outside of a small town.

    I do have high-speed internet at home, but with the frequency of cable modem outages where I live, I'm not willing to put all of my eggs in the Cox Communications basket. Besides, if I wanted cable, I would just go with them instead of using DirecTV.

    So, satellite isn't going away soon.
     
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  15. gordon1fan

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    I noticed on the RedH firmware web site that all of the Genie receivers except the HR34 has the firmware 0x1037 full time now. So now I guess the old GUI is gone forever. RIP!
     
  16. makaiguy

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    The shoe finally dropped overnight on my HR44/200. 0x1037, Service 2 (whatever Service 2 means?)

    I haven't spent much time with it yet, buy my initial reaction is it's not the horror I had been led to believe. Maybe some things have been improved as it's evolved.

    Logos in the guide seem to be fully populated.

    Some things are found in different places and/or require different keystrokes, but it shouldn't take too long to get used to them.

    Like everyone else, I think the trick play timeline display takes up much too much of the screen. It doesn't need to list the program name - I KNOW what program I'm watching. And there's no need for the deathstar logo there either. But as before, a quick press of the Play button makes it instantly disappear.
     
  17. slice1900

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    Yes, it has no coax. Knowing Directv though they'll probably still want to install it with a DECA like they do RVU TVs, unless AT&T has finally cured them of their coax religion.
     
  18. catocony

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    My HR44 upgraded last night. It looks functional, but I don't care for the grayscale color scheme and the tiny font. I agree with above posters that there doesn't appear to be anything new there, just a different look and feel. As I guy who's had the same haircut for 35 years, I don't see the point. My girlfriend gets a new hairstyle every six months and she thinks it's cool. I'll get used to it.
     
  19. TheRatPatrol

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    So this box will be for streaming only, not for satellite, correct?
     
  20. slice1900

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    We don't know for sure, but since the manual talks about an HS27 which as far as we know will NOT be part of any IP related offerings, this box will probably be used for both satellite and streaming. It doesn't make sense for them to have separate hardware for the products, given that the need on the client end is the same either way.
     

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