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  1. Jul 3, 2018 #1641 of 2621
    cypherx

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    Theres a whole video on it, post 1687.

    I for one think it’s a step backwards. Might as well never did the GUI update. To me, the guide looks just like the previous GUI, just with a different (nonexistent basically) background and more flat cell borders. Back to the old 6 lines, thick bulky font.

    I would welcome OPTIONS for small, medium, large fonts. Maybe small could show logos in the guide, medium is more like 1088 and then large would look like 1101 in the video posted a few posts up.

    But as we know it’s not a Democracy, and options are something DirecTV never seem to consider. Yet they can put a smooth scrolling option (which is worthless on an RVU connection) but they can’t do a simple font change? I guess HTML5 is not anyone’s specialty over at the DirecTV software engineering group.
     
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  2. Jul 3, 2018 #1642 of 2621
    JerryMeeker

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    In a perfect world, the GUI would be designed with a choice in the video settings to allow viewers to select larger or smaller fonts based on preference. Not being a programmer, I don’t know how difficult this would be to implement, but we see similar options on other devices we use.
     
  3. Jul 3, 2018 #1643 of 2621
    mrknowitall526

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    I just got 1088 and noticed the font was larger on the left hand menus. Going back to 6 channels after having 7 is so dumb!!

    Noticed a new "Misc Options" setting that he didn't go into. Wonder what that is?

    Looks like other things were fixed. A big one for me is the date something was recorded. It was listed on the right side now on the main List screen instead of having to go into More Info. That's a big thing for me!

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  4. Jul 3, 2018 #1644 of 2621
    JerryMeeker

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    Are you talking about release 1101? 1088 has seven lines per page in the guide, and does not have the “Misc Options” you mention.
     
  5. Jul 3, 2018 #1645 of 2621
    mrknowitall526

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    Was unclear. I was talking about 1088 at first, when was comparing 1101 from the screen shots.

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  6. Jul 4, 2018 #1646 of 2621
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    Missing Playlist Recordings Possible Temp Fix: Watch and delete or just delete the newest recording or the recording currently at the top of your Playlist, just did that now and it brought back all of my recordings without needing to reboot it. Now this particular recording is a manual one and it had older ones in its folder, not sure if a certain recording is causing the playlist to lose my recordings but the bottom line is this GUI has problems and why is it taking so long for Directv to remove the shaded progress bar.
     
  7. Jul 4, 2018 #1647 of 2621
    Bill Broderick

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    The same incompetent programmers who coded the new GUI, guided by the same incompetent project managers who guided the effort of creating that piece of crap implementation, are now trying to get rid of the multitude of bugs that they personally implemented.

    That's why it's taking so long for Directv to remove the shaded progress bar.

    A competent staff would go a long way toward solving the problems (even if they had throw out the poorly designed and written code and start from scatch.

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  8. Jul 4, 2018 #1648 of 2621
    wrj

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    Yes, and a competent project develop crew would have never released this mess. For the years I've been with DTV, I had my doubts that they ever had a solid plan for their product platform. And certainly, their execution of "enhancements" has much to be desired.
     
  9. Jul 4, 2018 #1649 of 2621
    fjames

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    Hmm, the 1101 in the video isn't like mine exactly.

    One of the things I like in 1101 (went straight there from 1088) is Settings is now on the bottom in the menu - so you can just page down instead of page down-arrow up because there was something else in the last slot. I watched the vid just to find the "more options" or whatever someone mentioned, as I don't remember it. On the vid 1101, that's what's in the last slot, below settings. So I don't have that.

    Just a comment - the way it works now for page scrolling is the same as it always has, but with fewer lines it can be like some kind of psychological torture. So, if I have this straight in my head, the way page scrolling works is it's a "minus 2" setup, so that the last two lines on page 2 become the first two lines of page 3 (or any successive pages after p1.) The GSB is always in line 2 (on any page except p1) and takes 3 lines worth of space. What this means is, on any page after p2, if you're paging down, you only have to look at what's below the GSB (because you've already seen the first two on the previous page.)

    What I meant by psychological torture is, on a 6 line page, you have a grand total of two entries per page that are relevant. Two. The torture reference is that I've been so beaten down by their continued incompetence I just don't care anymore, I'll tell them whatever they want.

    On an 8 line page, only 4 are relevant.

    All of this, as far as I can deduce, is directly because of the GSB (and exacerbated by the zoomed element/larger font.)
     
  10. Jul 4, 2018 #1650 of 2621
    JerryMeeker

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    I read your post several times, and still have no idea what you are talking about. I guess for starters, I don't know what GSB means.
     
  11. Jul 4, 2018 #1651 of 2621
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    Settings should really be at the top of the menu screen, MENU>LEFT ARROW>SELECT or make MENU>MENU a shortcut.
     
  12. Jul 4, 2018 #1652 of 2621
    fjames

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    GSB=Giant Stupid Box ... it's just easier to type GSB. All it means is, there's 1 line at top of page - the GSB takes 3 lines - that sums to 4, and in a 6 line field, there's only 2 left. Every new GUI works that way, it's just more noticeable with the loss of lines. It scrolls weird (retaining 2 of the previous page's items) because of the damn box. So, the first line on a new page is from the last page - the second (GSB) line is from the last page - and there's only two left for new entries (on a six line page.) It means on a basic List page, you'll be scrolling 4 relevant items p/page.

    Even if Settings was at the top, you'd still have to arrow left twice to get there. I might make a shortcut, I bought a Harmony just because of this gui, but I have too many already, and the Harmony isn't exactly an ergonomic masterpiece (lots of itty-bitty buttons.)

    Edit: Just to be clear, in my earlier post I wasn't saying I liked Settings at the bottom, what I liked was that it wasn't NEXT to the bottom anymore.
     
  13. Jul 5, 2018 #1653 of 2621
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    Which model Harmony did you buy?
     
  14. Jul 5, 2018 #1654 of 2621
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    Never had a single issue with 1088.
    Have not had a single issue with 1101.
    I watch programming not guides and menus.
     
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    I checked yesterday to see what software I have and saw it was updated on 6/24. You could have fooled me. Can't say I notice a change in speed on anything. Still sluggish.
     
  16. Jul 5, 2018 #1656 of 2621
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    missint its number ... 1088,1099,1101 ?
     
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  18. Jul 5, 2018 #1658 of 2621
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    I’m with ya Aliens. Supposedly they took logos out of the guide between 1037 and 1088 to “speed it up”, or at least that’s what all the posters say here and the other site. It’s just as slow as it was. Shoulda, coulda and woulda put an option in for guide sizing. The smaller size could fit the logos, the larger size could castrate a line of information and make it less usable. People set it how they want and what looks best on their screen size and everyone wins. They build complex satellites and launch them into space, but they can’t figure out a simple list type menu in display settings to make it work for all. One size fits all may have been required in the 80’s when you only had 640k of memory to work with, but times have changed!
     
  19. Jul 5, 2018 #1659 of 2621
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    I have a single HR44-500 on 1088.
    As mentioned many times, this firmware version is abysmal.
    Let me itemize the problems as I see them.

    The Playlist: With the slow response to remote commands, it's quite easy to accidentally delete programs. Not to mention the huge size of the box. Speaking of that box, after exiting a program I would expect the box would highlight that program allowing you to delete it if needed.

    Slow remote response: This is just plain unacceptable for many reasons.

    The Guide: My biggest problem is that there is too much wasted space between entries.
    And too few lines, which looks like with 1100 is going to get worse. Also. too few hours shown.
    With a smaller font, more hours could be listed. At least, with 1088, the problem with horizontal scrolling was fixed. It seems that they are using a larger font because of larger screen sizes.

    Bottom banner: It takes too much room at the bottom the screen. Is the DirecTV w/logo really needed above the program name? Removing that and reducing the shading would reduce the banner height.

    Menu: Again, there's a lot of wasted space between lines of icons. The order of the list on the left should be reordered (possibly with Settings closer to the top of the list). And, the top entry needs to be the highlighted on the left, instead of the icons. Too easy to use down arrow when trying to scroll to a different menu item.
     
  20. Jul 5, 2018 #1660 of 2621
    mrphil

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    I had no issue with the previous GUI prior to the recent changes, including a recent update on a Sunday, which I thought was unheard of. I wish they'd leave well enough alone and concentrate on fixing things that either never worked, or were broken some time ago with an update. For example, were customers clogging the phone lines complaining about the ability to search for either the oldest/newest recording, or A-Z / Z-A? It was so much easier bringing up a movie starting with 'W' having the Z-A search available. Many other examples come to mind, one of which is fixing the issue with some programs having no first aired date, thus setting up a recording using only new episodes doesn't work properly.
     

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