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New HD local markets in 2009

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Satelliteracer, Dec 31, 2008.

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  1. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice if they finished the PBS HD rollout that they announced almost a year ago.
     
  2. Baldmaga

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    Give yourself some credit. The new DMA rankings have Monterey, CA at #68.
     
  3. jefbal99

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    Love that Michigan is mentioned :-D

    Hoping that it is Lansing as the other DMAs lacking HD Lil are in the U.P. and Alpena :)

    Lansing is one of the top 10 DMAs w/o HD LiL and D* is already using the HD feeds for SD. They are center cutting the HDs (can tell from the update bars during the sporting events).

    Now I'm really geeked, come on D*, don't let me down :)
     
  4. je4755

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    According to Nielsen's "Local Television Market Universe Estimates
    as of January 1, 2009" (posted in another thread by Newshawk during late August) Monterey-Salinas remains #124. Where did you see we jumped to #68?
     
  5. Maruuk

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    So the rollout is cued to DMA rankings, lowest (highest volume of customerrs) go first? Is 64 good or bad?
     
  6. evan_s

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    I think 5 channels per DMA might be low for their long term plans but I don't think anyone has actually figured out the current average. If you figure ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC as the basics for a DMA and then add on PBS you are already at 5. Add on CW, additional PBS stations or other lesser or market specific stations and your easily past 5. I know my DMA is currently at 6 hd channels. There are other locals that are currently broadcasting in sd only and are being carried that way but could be hd in the future.
     
  7. Herdfan

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    True, but once you start getting into the #120 and higher DMA', many of them only have one or two stations. Only the really large DMA's have 6+ stations.
     
  8. jefbal99

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    I'd be happy with just the 4 major locals, toss in PBS if you want, but its not a deal breaker for me. OUr local CW is a sub and MNTV is its own channel, but is as low budget as they come.
     
  9. bobnielsen

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    It will require an additional transponder to go beyond 5 if they stick with 5 HD channels per transponder. In many cases a transponder using the same spotbeam can be shared between markets, but there will be some instances where that won't work. Some of the DMAs are physically quite small while others can be larger than a spotbeam will cover.
     
  10. DMG

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    I don't think there has been a huge amount of growth in our market so the idea that we are at #68 seems a bit far-fetched.

    However, it is disappointing that Satracer's message didn't leave much hope for 2009. I'm glad for those who consider this to be a great piece of news for New Years but I hope there is lots more to come.
     
  11. kevinwmsn

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    Maybe Satracer's message isn't the outlook for the whole year, it might be the first couple of months of 2009. D* is busy converting analog feeds to digital feeds LiLs for the digital conversion in about 6 weeks. Maybe after the conversion, they can ramp up adding more HD LiLs.
     
  12. machavez00

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    I meant as far as HD channels go. 33 is digital SD, as well 38.
     
  13. flyingtigerfan

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    Hey, that's the first exciting hint about locals for my area that I've ever had! Mark down the date! (There's only one DMA in SC without HD locals...!)

    Thanks, racer.
     
  14. RDH416

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    Let's just keep our fingers crossed that all the Lexingtons get HD LIL's soon!
     
  15. flyingtigerfan

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    Sure. I got friends in your neighborhood. :)
     
  16. DMG

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    Today I had a discussion with a friend who currently has Comcast cable in the Santa Cruz area. He was thinking of moving to DirecTV but if he does so, he'll be giving up HD locals since they are on cable and there is no reason to think they are coming to DirecTV anytime. In every other way DirecTV has cable beat, but like me, he has no chance of receiving OTA stations. And the locals refuse to grant waivers. :-(
     
  17. joshjr

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    Why are you not able to get OTA? If you can not get OTA then why would the affiliates not be willing to grant waivers?
     
  18. DMG

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    This is an excellent question that I wish I knew the answer to. I think the reasons they deny it are:
    1) The online information from antennaweb and other resources indicate that we should get OTA. Of course they don't really take into account of the terrain on my exact location so they are worthless. I believe the locals can use the online information as an excuse to deny us locals.
    2) The ones making the decision about whether to allow or deny the waivers are those that stand the most to gain by denying the waiver, i.e. the locals themselves. Of course there is an obvious conflict of interest.

    If others have suggestions about how to get waivers granted, I'd be glad to hear them. While of course I'd rather have DirecTV have my locals in HD, that seems to be a long time coming still, so I'm willing to pursue other means.
     
  19. Alan Gordon

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    Just guessing, I'd say at CES...

    ~Alan
     
  20. Alan Gordon

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    I sure hope so!

    As someone who lives in one of the two markets in GA without HD-LIL (or SD-LIL), I was REALLY hoping for some HD-LIL "love"... preferably before D12 is up or Dish Network starts HD-LIL here.

    Granted, he did say "as well as a few others", so maybe there's hope yet! :)

    ~Alan
     
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