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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by bishoph, Dec 6, 2011.
That's a completely different argument.
How can something be "removed" from the HR34 if it was never there to begin with? Other newer HD Receivers also no longer have optical audio outputs. And the H25 doesn't even have an ethernet port.
As you already know, there's no "non-monetary solution" to your dilemma.
Very funny! You cannot remove something which was not there to begin with. It is a matter of semantics which you knew before the comment was made. You got the point. Thanks for the laugh! Have a great day!
Sure there is. It's the get up and swap the cable out yourself solution.
Thought you were going to FIOS?
Take it to the HR34 threads that are out there. This doesn't have anything to do with the HDGUI.
I've been running both for a while now. It's a pain in the rear to work off a 4TB backlog ...
Over the history of the HR line, there have been several iterations where one model may have coaxial, another may have toslink, this is nothing new, not all the boxes have both, and usually when one gets removed its the toslink output. Nothing new here. With the majority of users using HDMI for their HD setups(I DIDNT say all), its a completely unnecessary connection.
OK, let's all take a minute and breathe. We have a very legitimate topic here and I want to keep this thread open.
Moving forward, your posts will be deleted without warning if you address each other's motives or actions instead of discussing the topic.
Thanks for understanding.
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When I bought a Honda Element in 2004, it had a sunroof. Looking at a new one in 2011, I noticed the sunroof had been removed in favor of better roll-over protection.
My first computer had a serial jack. Now try to find a computer with one. Instead, there are USB and HDMI connections. I still use a serial connection all the time. Many whole house stereo systems and some remote programming devices use serial connections. I have to use a USB to serial adapter to make them work.
How long has it been since you've seen a car with a manual choke? On an older car, I liked them. A manual choke makes it run better initially.
I hate self service check-out counters at markets. I want some 17 year old pimple faced kid to bag my groceries. That's becoming harder and harder to find.
I don't find timers on coffee pots as common as they once were. I want my Mr. Coffee to have my cup of jo ready when I roll out of bed.
If I was God, all stereos would have bass, treble and balance controls. Now a lot of them don't, especially home theater receivers.
Features come and features go. It's the way of the world.
Great idea. Now that we've all had an opportunity to vent, how about we propose some solutions? And how can we get them implemented? I'll start:
1) shorten the 20-second graphic display?
2) eliminate the graphic display entirely? (we get it and we're living with it)
20 seconds is a bit long, agreed. I don't think you can eliminate it though because on down the road they'll have new customers and this is how they tell them about it.
Information request only: using HDMI to connect the TV, what do you use to separately connect your AVR? Or do you always turn on your AVR when you want to watch TV?
I think down the road they can shorten it. It's 20 seconds long now to give the customers the time to read it. Also, it's to remind the installer to not do that. After three months or so, everyone will know if existing installations have been impacted by the removal of the feature, and installers will be aware as well. After that, the message just needs to be a friendly reminder, and 5 seconds is long enough for that.
Yeah, but nobody removed the sunroof on your car in the middle of the night!
The solution is simple. Give us an option that let's the DVR present an SD compatible UI out all ports. If even Verizon was able to pull this off with their new HD UI, I'm sure DirecTv's s/w engineers can manage it. Heck, the old Verizon UI wasn't even widescreen.
Kick the bean counters to the side and let the engineers do their job.
Here are the following solutions:
Buy an adapter
Ignore the message
Change the resolution when on that TV
Get a receiver for that room
Everything else was discussed ad naseum when we were testing this and it came up that DIRECTV chose to put an message and a 1 button solution to change the resolution as the fix.
My dvr is not connected directly to my tv, it is only connected through my avr. My avr automatically turns on when the tv turns on, BUT my avr also has HDMI pass-thru so it doesnt need to be on to watch tv through my dvr as long as it was on the input I want to watch when it was shut off. So I don't have anything to separately connect my dvr to my avr.
(1) They never asked ME. Did I miss where DirecTV actually ASKED their customers how they use the product? I have a fairly sophisticated setup, but I am more than certain that even amongst rather unsophisticated subscribers there are a large number who (a) have run coax from their sole DVR to share to another room or three (heck .. I have several family members doing this at their homes right now), and (b) are doing (a) because they're too broke to spring for another DVR.
My guess is that DirecTV is doing this to force people to pay for MRV (which I have NO interest in, thank you!).
(2) The new guide is hardly legible from a distance, even with a fairly large screen, and I don't notice that much of a speed improvement. I want the old one back if it means that I don't have to down-res the HDTV in the living room that my wife is watching while I watch in the office.
Almost all of the major markets are done and quite a bit of the secondary markets are completed as well. Go through this thread and count how many are upset and how many have just said they need to purchase an adapter. You won't need more than 2 hands.
They didn't ask because they don't need to. As it was stated many times it was never an authorized setup. Even if there were 18,000 customers with this setup you're talking less than .1% of their consumer base is impacted and I think 18k is being generous. I would bet it's less than 5k.