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New NCAA Basketball TV Deal - The End of Mega March Madness?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DMRI2006, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. Baldmaga

    Baldmaga Godfather

    Sep 1, 2007
    In this day and age, is there really any difference between Network and Cable anymore? I realize there are quite a bit of people that still go OTA only, but odds are the people that are OTA only, and the demographic the NCAA is aiming for ratings probably has very little overlap.
  2. ajc68

    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    Nope. MNF moved to ESPN and so is the MNC game. The Rose Bowl is moving too now that the old contract is up. We're moving into a new era in televised sports.


    ESPN runs ABC Sports, but chose to slate the games for the cable channel, not the over-the-air network. Owning a valuable property like the BCS could help ESPN when it negotiates future subscription fees.

    The agreement covers the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls each year and the BCS title game from 2011-13. The Rose Bowl will continue to be televised on ABC through at least 2010 under a separate, previous contract, said ESPN president George Bodenheimer.
  3. Avder

    Avder Hall Of Fame

    Feb 6, 2010
    Oh goodie, so soon ESPN will represent $10 of my total D* bill rather than the $4.50 it does now.

    Forget channels a la carte, I want to be able to drop ESPN and only ESPN and save a few bucks a month if I want to.
  4. SamC

    SamC Hall Of Fame

    Jan 20, 2003
    The proposal is for 96 teams with the NIT eliminated. The tournament would still start on the same Thursday as today, the additional round would be on Tuesday and Wednesday of the second week.

    It would flow like this. The top 32 teams would get a bye. The first round (Th-Fr) and the second round (Sa-Su) would both consist of 32 games, 16 per day, divided among 8 "sub-regional" sites. Then Monday would be a travel day and then the next round would be Tu-We consisting of 16 games, 8 games per day, then Th-Fr with 8 games, four per day, and Sa-Su with four games, two per day, all three of these rounds being played at four "regional" sites. The Final Four would then be the following Saturday and Monday, as now.

    Thus, following a conf. tournament that generally consists of three or four days of games in a row, teams would get four days off before begining a run of five games in 10 days, before an odd week long rest before the Final Four. A team that won its conf. tournament and then made it to the final four would have played nine games in 18 days.

    This will all be parceled out on four channels, TBS, TNT, TruTV, and CBS. Apparently, unlike today's "wraparound" coverage, each channel will just have a game in the regular season style of tip to horn.

    Personally, I do not see the Final Four going to Turner. The politicans and such will pontificate on moving "public colleges" to a "pay TV".
  5. Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    Aug 15, 2002
    TH efunny thing is they position this as not having kids miss class, when under the current system, they miss a day or two by travelling to the first round site Wednesday afternoon, playing until Sunday and heading back that night. Far fewer classes are MWF than MW or Tues Thurs and most athletes avoid late afternoon classes already due to practice, so they miss Thursday only.

    Now, with games on Tuesday and WEdnesday also, they will miss the whole next week, if the keep winning as they will travel from the first round site directly to the next site. But, everyone knows, inspite of commercial protests to the contrary the NCAA really cares only about money and not actual education.
  6. stlmike

    stlmike Legend

    Aug 24, 2007
    I'm thrilled that they will be giving the tourney the amount of tv coverage it deserves. In order to watch "your team" it would cost you $70 bucks. The rolling coverage from one primary site was a joke.

    This is great news for me!
  7. dlt4

    dlt4 Godfather

    Oct 4, 2006
    As a big college BB fan, I didn't like the expansion to 64 teams, so don't even get me started about 96. There isn't anywhere near that many teams that deserve to be in a tournament.

    As many have said, it's all about the money, but for me as a fam, they are killing my interest in the tournament. :(
  8. DCSholtis

    DCSholtis Up The Irons!

    Aug 7, 2002

  9. DMRI2006

    DMRI2006 Godfather

    Jun 13, 2006
    I'm not advocating 96 teams either, but the only way 96 teams could work is if they give regular season champions auto bids as they do for conference tournament champions. I believe Coach K is a proponent of that IF you have to do it. To me why fix what's not broken, but if you ARE going to do it, at least do it that way. Don't fill out the remaining 96 teams with, say, 12 bids from the Big East or another major conference. That would make it a real waste of time, but something tells me that's the way it's going to go. :(
  10. lwilli201

    lwilli201 Hall Of Fame

    Dec 22, 2006

    Not sure what to read into this. Is $840M a year not enough? Are they hoping for a single outlet? Is CBS getting a bunch of grief from their affiliates over the uncertainty of where the games important to their area will be aired? Do they think they may be able to get a better deal later on? Really, more questions than answers.
  11. chevyguy559

    chevyguy559 Fresno State Bulldog!

    Sep 19, 2008
    Fresno, CA
    The NCAA should not worry about basketball when the football issue needs to be addressed IMO :D
  12. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Count me as one who is appalled by the so-called mid-majors (some of them aren't mid-majors at all) getting automatic bids at the expense of teams like Illinois and Virginia Tech this year and Penn State and Notre Dame last year. The NCAA made it too easy to become a Division I basketball conference. You either kick those pretenders out or you expand the field.

    I do not see any advantage to giving an automatic bid to a regular season champion in addition to the conference tournament champion as any regular season champion worth anything will get an invite. The only ones that that clause would add would be more unworthy teams.

    I have no issue with 96. The field has been 64(65) for a long time while the eligible teams has grown more than double in that same time and the growth of the smaller conference automatic bids taking up a much larger share than when the 64 team field started. In a way, 96 corrects that mistake.

    In today's tournament, the Villanova team that won against Georgetown many years ago may not even get an invite. That is wrong.
  13. LCDSpazz

    LCDSpazz AllStar

    Dec 31, 2008
    Great. So not only is there still no playoff in football, they're going to water down the one in basketball. God I hate the NCAA.
  14. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
  15. Red Dog

    Red Dog Godfather

    Aug 3, 2008

    Of course they would. Villanova was an 8-seed, comfortably in. There is very little different about the tourney today than in 1985. In fact, there are the same number of at-large bids today (34) as there were in 1985. The only difference is that there is one more auto bid and they added the play-in game (64 to 65) to account for that.

    I sure as hell don't need to see the 10th team from the Big East in the field. I'd much rather see a champion from the Summit League in that a South Florida, that's for damn sure. If the big boys actually went and played some road games against schools from small conferences, then I might consider your argument.

    You mention Penn State last year - their non-conference performance was a joke.
  16. since 2/96

    since 2/96 Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    good grief....simple solution: everyone whining about the expansion of this tournament; don't watch any games until they get to the final 64. I'm not a big fan of expanding it to 96 teams either but it does give that 'one' school the opportunity to get in the big dance and make a run similar to what George Mason did a few years back...

    And since these games have been available online for all to see for a couple years now, D* had to know the MMM package days were numbered...
  17. matty8199

    matty8199 Icon

    Dec 4, 2005
    They won a few non-conference games in the NIT, no?
  18. bobcamp1

    bobcamp1 Icon

    Nov 8, 2007
    That's what I did this year. I watched online. It's great. And free. And can be done at work -- not that *I* did that. :sure:
  19. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    1. No way in the world are the same number of autobids since 1985. Many conferences that get autobids today didn't even exist in 1985.

    2. Villanova would be on the bubble today. Not comfortably in.

    3. To hell with the non-conference performance (you mean schedule). Penn State earned the bid last year, as did Illinois this year and Virginia Tech this year. Punish the big conference teams for their schedules and let the weak conferences get a auto-bid without any real schedule at all. Or maybe you think that Middle Tennessee State plays a better overall schedule than any Big Ten, Big East, SEC, Big 12, Pac 10 or ACC school? Don't make me laugh.

    You would rather see some podunk school play? Why? What do they do to earn their bid? Play in some weak ass conference that most of the big conference schools would be undefeated in?
  20. Red Dog

    Red Dog Godfather

    Aug 3, 2008
    Yes way. True, some (not many) conferences that exist today did not exist in 1985, but then there were conferences in 1985 that got automatic bids that do not exist today (e.g. East Coast Conference, Metro Conference, Southwest Conference). Some current conferences had different names back then - for example, the Big West used to be the PCAA.

    Yes they would be comfortably in since the tournament invitation structure (except for going from 64 to 65) is the same now as it was in 1985.

    Penn State earned nothing last year. Look at Penn State's schedule. They were not punished. They played creampuffs (lost to the 2 decent teams they played) before they got to Big Ten play, where they were mediocre.

    The best part of the tournament is the first few days when the little guys battle the big guys on a neutral floor. For example, seeing Ohio U. demolish Georgetown this year was great to see.

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