New pricing?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by studechip, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. sregener

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    This is a very curious mentality. I worked at a large corporation that wanted to shut down a department because its revenue was not growing faster than inflation. The only problem was that it was a "cash cow" - it literally funded more than the entire rest of the organization.

    There is nothing wrong with a company making the same profit year after year. If I got a paycheck of $100,000,000, and it only tracked with inflation over time, I'm not going to say, "Gee, I'm not getting more every year, this has got to stop."

    Right now, there is a battle underway, as more and more people are looking to drop pay TV and go with the ultimate in a la carte - streaming. And as more people stream, this puts more pressure on companies that have contracts to keep their numbers up. Since ESPN can't force the number of customers to increase, their only choice is to raise the prices they charge the cable/satellite companies for carriage. Which then leads to more people cutting the cord, or cutting packages. And around and around we go. Eventually, the fracturing of programming (what was once on ESPN is now spread between BTN, regional sports networks, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports Network, FS1, etc.) will have to stop and the whole industry will contract. But it will be painful and not every company and/or channel is going to survive.
     
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  2. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz New Texan

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    I just went online and changed my programming package from Choice Xtra Classic ($72 per month) to Entertainment ($55 per month now, $57 after the increase). I do not subscribe to the premiums. We'll give it a few days, then I'll call the retention department.

    I disagree with you. I sat down a few days ago, and figured out what was essential and what isn't should something like losing my current job (which I earn good money for). (I get good money). In terms of ranking:
    • Rent and electricity
    • Gas and oil changes, car insurance (car is paid for) to get to work or job interviews
    • Auto club membership
    • Cell phone (don't have a land line, cell phone also has Internet access, and in a pinch, can tether laptop)
    • Gym membership (I need to go more often)
    • Internet access (WiFi access at a public library, friend's home, or Starbucks)
    • Toastmasters club
    • Pay TV Access (would be the first to go, have plenty of DVDs and BluRays)
    That's my reality and my priorities. I also recognize the challenges of running a business -- I'm a tech with a business major degree.
     
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  3. PCampbell

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    They do not have us by theballs, you can get news weather and network programing free OTA. I know I am wicked old but thats how we did it in the 70s and the same stations are still broadcasting today for free in HD.
     
  4. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    OTA is not an option for MANY MANY Americans.
     
  5. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Agree.
     
  6. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    The only way those of you who are complaining constantly about costs is to cut it. Cut the cord. Cancel DIRECTV, cable, FIOS. And, then, please, stop with the B+M'ing.
     
  7. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member

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    Nielsen has reported in Q1 2013, there were 11.2 million broadcast-only homes. The company puts the number of TV homes at 115M. As well, there are just over 100M pay-TV households. This leaves 15M TV homes that don’t use pay-TV. Nielsen accounts for some of this difference with the new “Zero-TV” category which it puts at 5M, 75% of which own a TV. The rest, 11M, are broadcast-only households. So, MANY MANY Americans can and do have the option.
     
  8. PCampbell

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    Who would that be? There there a lot of TV stations out there and that is how most got TV in the past. Most if not all stations are still broadcasting. The cable company's have done a great job in making you feel you need them. Until sattlite most rural areas had no other options. If you feel you have no choice then that's OK but if you get layed off you may think different, I know I did.
     
  9. domingos35

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    i guess i'll have to increase what i charge my customers an extra $10/month
     
  10. linuspbmo

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    He's talking about people like me that live out in the country and are too far out to receive good OTA signals. Most Americans can get OTA but don't forget about those of us that can't.
     
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  11. acostapimps

    acostapimps Hall Of Famer

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    Anybody that's not happy with these increases you should speak with retention and see what they can do, Might be good amount of bill credits or not much, but you never know until you try, If that doesn't work than you can try later when the increase are near, Or you can cancel or suspend service and try other alternative options(Comcast,OTA,Roku,TiVo or whatever cable service you have in your area) The key to a successful credit is good payment history and years of service, but also if you don't have current credits in your account. Don't threaten to cancel unless you are doing it. Research all your options.


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  12. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz New Texan

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    That is what I would prefer to do, sir, but external factors are saying no.

    My gunpowder is dry. I know what I want, and as you guys are seeing, I am taking the necessary steps now.
     
  13. mhayes70

    mhayes70 New Member

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    Why do you stay with Directv then? If you are that upset why don't you go to another provider or cut the cord?
     
  14. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    that would be to "easy"
     
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  15. inkahauts

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    How much of that increase and beyond came from its Latin America division and not the us division?

    Each needs to be profitable in their own and ill bet they make a heck of a lot less money per sub now than they did in 2003. Heck this company was underwater for what almost a decade before it even became profitable.

    And do you know how much of that profit will be used to keep the company going and expanding in more technology (new satelites) and such in the first place? It's not so cut an dry. In have no problem thinking DIRECTV isn't increase their profit line with these rate hikes. Not after CBS and others are gaining to 2 a month in fees. That's 20 million in new expenses every month for the one station!

    I hate the increases but the only thing DIRECTV can try and do is split the packages more.

    DIRECTV hasn't gone up nearly as much as rights fees for sports and sports salaries have gone up. It's all related.
     
  16. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    More people can get over the air than cable I bet. Same with over the air and land based Internet.

    This all just sucks because companies keep outbidding each other or sorts and pay entertainers to much money and it all ends up on our bills. And we want the same stuff or the same amount as it was score but to any want to get paid 100 times what people used to get paid. (Sports!!!)
     
  17. sregener

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    As a percentage of households, that's almost 0%. Full-powered broadcast television reaches at least 60 miles, and most Americans live within 60 miles of a transmitter farm. And for those who are outside of that area, there are options like Dish's Smart Pack, which for $20 gives you your locals and a smattering of extra channels. In SD, of course, but we're talking "necessity", not "luxury."

    Most people who believe they can't get OTA simply believe they can't because they either never tried or they tried one of those plug-in-the-wall "whole house" antenna and got nothing. The digital era with modern tuners make it far easier to get a perfect signal than ever before. I had my antenna strapped to the bottom of my deck, less than 1' off the ground, and was receiving a perfect signal from stations 35+ miles away.

    If you need to figure out what is a necessity, look at how people survive in the third world. If they don't have it, it isn't a necessity.
     
  18. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    You obviously have no clue.
    Go to TVfool.com type in 18445 and tell me what you come up with. And we are less then 40 miles to transmitters.

    Not everyone lives on top of a mountain, city or plains states.
     
  19. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    And you guys that claim "just switch"
    Guess you forgot about ETFs.

    Anyone with a brain already figured that paying an ETF and starting with New provider may not be a cost saving measure.

    What I will do, is what many suggested, Not take anymore offers from Directv , Dial back my programming.
    And look at other options for my commercial account and see how that pans out.

    More then likely I was Going to do MLB EI , and Center Ice.

    NFL ST yea, I think I'll stay away from that.
    I'll Get Eagles,Giants,Steelers,Jets,Sunday Night, Monday Night, Thursday Night games without it.
    I'm sure my business will be just fine without it.
     
  20. hdtvfan0001

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    This thread has really deteriorated.

    Shame...it's a valid topic to discuss.

    However a select poster or two continue to dwell in the science fiction world of how they think pricing works instead of how it actually works (also called the blame game). The topic has been analyzed, reviewed, debated, and discussed for years...and revives about the same time each year during price change season. It's a proven fact that the biggest price change impact is derived from the content manufacturers/providers. Satellite and cable companies simply pass on a (much smaller) proportionate share to the consumer.

    This is virtually how this most recent conversation has been going..
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