New to 4K

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Hdhead, May 11, 2019.

  1. dreadlk

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    Very true, but it does beg the question of what exactly is the HR54 doing in regards to a 4K signal.
    It appears confusing when we just look at a live feed but when you consider recordings it would mean the HR54 is doing all the work. That recording file could theoretically be played back by any software that had the correct codec and decryption key.

    Add me to the confused list because is the C61k actually working with raw SWM data or is it getting the already processed data from the HR54?
     
  2. P Smith

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    Let me clarify the point: HR54/HS17 recording unaltered [partial] TS [transport stream] from satellite(s).
     
  3. P Smith

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    actually it's MoCA and it does carry [partial] TS, not processed per se
     
  4. P Smith

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    nope, you could name it "raw" … it's TS
     
  5. jpenneck

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    There has been some mention of new 4K channels coming soon. Does anyone know what they are or when they will start broadcasting ?
     
  6. slice1900

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    The clients (whether 4K or HD) are getting basically the same thing you get when you stream something from Amazon Prime or whatever, i.e. just that channel not all the channels that are carried on that transponder like a SWM 'channel'.

    Whether you are watching a recording or 'live', the DVR has already removed Directv's encryption (the stuff that the access card is required for) before sending it to the client, then it is re-encrypted using DTCP-IP for the path between DVR and client.
     
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  7. SledgeHammer

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    So end of the day, semantics be damned, neither the HR54 or HS17 output a 4K signal. They output proprietary DirecTV encrypted data over moca/deca/ethernet/wifi. Only the C61K, Hopper 3 and 4K Joey's output a 4K signal :D. P Smith was actually right. Assuming I understood his post.
     
  8. dreadlk

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    Interesting. Are you saying that it does the same for SD and HD recordings.
     
  9. slice1900

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    DTCP-IP is a real standard not Directv specific, so they aren't outputting 'proprietary Directv encrypted data' but it is encrypted.
     
  10. dreadlk

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    Good thread!
    I never had a client based system until recently so I was not sure how they shared data.
     
  11. P Smith

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    yes, for clients
    not, for own HR54 HDMI output
     
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  12. radamo

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    I am looking to take the 4k plunge and it could be this week. My HR44 is in my den where my 4K tv will be placed... Do I understand correctly that DTV STILL requires two different pieces of equipment to watch 4K content (meager as it is)? Both the HR54 and the C61 client? So will I need to change the location of my Genie and place the C61 by the 4K TV?
     
  13. Athlon646464

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    Yes.

    Do you have more than just the HR44 now? If so, then put the new HR54 in one of the other locations and return that device (otherwise it will cost you an additional $7 per month). Then put the C61K in your den.
     
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  14. MysteryMan

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    You'll need to replace your HR44 with either a HR54 or HS17. Both need a C61K-700 for 4K service. The HR54 can be connected to a TV and works with receivers, DVRs and clients. The HS17 is a headless server and cannot be connected to a TV and only works with clients. The HR54 can work with one C61K-700 at a once. The HS17 can work with two C61K-700 at once.
     
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  15. radamo

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    Yes three other HR24's.
     
  16. Athlon646464

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    Assuming you decide on the HR54 rather than the HS17, then replace one of them with your new HR54.
     
  17. radamo

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    So I guess the HR54/C61 is my only option for now.
     
  18. Athlon646464

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    No, you could go with the HS17 and clients at each location. The 4K client in the den and regular ones everywhere else. The HS17 is not counted when computing the $7 per location charge.

    Having said that, IMHO you are better off with an HR54. (And keeping the other 2 DVRs for now.)
     
  19. MysteryMan

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    If you want to keep using your three HR24s. If not then go with the HS17 and clients.
     
  20. radamo

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    Is PPV the only 4K content worth watching? I thought I saw that they had a channel to watch people surf and ride bikes (I hope that was an exaggeration)... ???
     

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