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NewsMix Channel 352 - No More

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by SomeRandomIdiot, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Nov 28, 2012 #41 of 214
    billsharpe

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    FiOS doesn't carry a news mix channel but it does provide BBC World News and CNN International, although both are SD rather than HD channels.
     
  2. Nov 28, 2012 #42 of 214
    maartena

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    CNN International and BBC World News are not carried in HD yet beyond the European ASTRA Satellites, so that would explain that. In Europe both channels CAN be received in HD, as they both originate from London. CNN International and CNN US do carry each-others feeds in times of breaking news/crisis, but that feed is also in SD, and just imposed on top of the CNN US channel.

    That said, I would rather have those two channels in SD than not at all. News channels to me are about the information, the value of the news content.... I don't necessarily need that in HD, nor would I refuse to watch it because it isn't in HD.

    As a matter of fact, I would gladly give up CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC in HD in favor of 3 other HD channels. (Of course I would NEED MSNBC to be HD around the Olympics... :D )
     
  3. Nov 28, 2012 #43 of 214
    mhking

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    I've got BBC World in HD via my Roku, though CNNI is still in SD at this point. In any event, it was well worth the addition to my DirecTV system.
     
  4. Nov 28, 2012 #44 of 214
    LDighera

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    Now that my indignation has had an opportunity to subside a bit, I'm wondering why DirecTV Customer Service is just repeating the party line instead of actually providing meaningful customer assistance.

    I sent them a copy of my post above, and here's the response I received from DirecTV Customer Support:

    Subject: My Response to Loss of News Mix [Reference #:121128-002023]
    From: "DIRECTV Customer Service"
    <directvcustomercare@directv.com>
    Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:26:22 -0800 (PST)

    Response
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    The News Mix Channel is being replaced by several exciting new 24X7 channels including Disney Jr, BeIn Sports, TWC SportsNet and TWC Deportes. Plus, you can still find the full time news channels that were showcased in News Mix in their current channel positions. In addition, we will continue to offer select Mix Channel experiences around key events such as the recent Election Mix, Olympics Mix and Mix channels for all Grand Slam Golf and Tennis events.

    Sincerely,
    DIRECTV Customer Care
    Discussion Thread​

    Instead of trying to foist kids and sports programming fluff off as being meaningful to a subscriber who's interested in real-world news and politics, perhaps they might have actually expended the effort and thought to provide a relevant and useful workaround for those who need to monitor the news.

    [TA Edison used to have this posted in every one of his laboratories and offices:

    There is no expedient to which a man will not resort
    to avoid the real labor of thinking.
    -- Sir Joshua Reynolds ]​

    How much more helpful would it have been for DirecTV Customer Service to have said:

    "Just program all the news channels into a custom channel list, and select that list when you want to view news."​

    At least that would have been relevant and useful.

    While it doesn't provide the full functionality of simultaneously viewing eight channels, it is supported by the equipment, and far preferable to the banal blather I received from DirecTV Customer Service.

    I guess I expect too much of DirecTV. Disappointing.... :nono2:
     
  5. Nov 28, 2012 #45 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    You received the standard response they will send to those complaining about this topic. They have more than 20 million customers...you need to be realistic. Now you are complaining because they didn't recommend something you had already thought of. It's a form letter. Welcome to 2012. If you want a more personal experience, call them and have an actual conversation.

    I can tell you this: if they had data that showed the news mix was popular enough, it would still be there. It's just a remap of channels they already have. It obviously wasn't worth the capacity it took up.
     
  6. Nov 28, 2012 #46 of 214
    majormax69

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    It is DOPE!! That they Dumped the News Mix and it has nothing to do with Bandwidth.. It is Political.. but you can figure that out.

    The really big problem about this is Millions of people Subscribed to DirecTv because of this "DTV Experience".. They simply just took the "Experience" away..

    Go Figure!! My Opinion! It was a fatal decision.. They should take ALL the Mix Channels away.. Then Everyone is happy! :-(
     
  7. Nov 28, 2012 #47 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    ...what? How was it political?
     
  8. Nov 29, 2012 #48 of 214
    majormax69

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    Won't get into politics.. But a little bird told me after this standoff with Gannett.. It will be back by the end of the year...
     
  9. Nov 29, 2012 #49 of 214
    inkahauts

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    And by the way, if you have that expensive a projector, why on earth would you ever rely on a time out to turn it off. When your done watching it, turn it off yourself. The four hours was chosen because many people watch a football game that can easily last that long without touching the remote. Its not the kind of thing they want you to be able to change, that just causes issues because too many people just don;t get options.

    With all that said, really? Its not liek they took away any actual programing here. I would understand if they had, but they didn't.

    Now with that said, I wonder why DIrectv didn't simply move this to another sat (99 or 103) and make it mpeg4 only... That might have made the majority happy. Although the true long term solution would be to have all hd mix channels after d14 is up and running.
     
  10. Nov 29, 2012 #50 of 214
    LDighera

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    Thank you for the information you provided.

    The reason I don't turn the projector off myself was contained in my original post to which you responded.

    I know of no way to turn the projector off automatically, other than it's built-in loss-of-video-signal-input timer. If I put a plug-in timer between the projector power cord and the wall outlet, it will not permit the projector to run its fan after the lamp is initially powered off and properly cool the lamp as it apparently must do. The projector, a Sharp XV-Z12000, is intelligent enough to turn itself off when it has received no video input signal for an extended period of time.

    As a potential workaround, I set the HD-DVR, an HR-24 (as I recall), viewing period to end at 2:00 AM in the hope that the DVR might shut off the video signal at that time, but it doesn't. The price of the projector lamp is ~$500.00.

    So, from what you say, DirecTV has made a decision to intentionally cripple its DVR so as not to confuse sports fans. Pathetic!

    I am able to refer the DirecTV programming staff to an intelligent programmer/consultant who is an absolute genius Unix and C guru; just say the word. :D
     
  11. Nov 29, 2012 #51 of 214
    majormax69

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    Did you Really say that!! Yikes!! Beacons me back to the days when we had figure out how to get our VCR from flashing 12:00 12:00 12:00

    ( among MANY options that are still " Dumbed" out )

    Settings: Powersaver > Off , 1 hour , 2 hours...

    And this one would really throw me for loop:
    Screen saver: On, Off

    Get My Drift.. Unfortunately he is right.. But I don't think it is the consumer that is dumb.. They just don't want to teach the staff to ,,,,, Carry On..:p
     
  12. Nov 29, 2012 #52 of 214
    myselfalso

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    I don't have a problem with them getting rid of the NewsMix channel.

    I do have a problem with them claiming it's because they lit up 3 24/7 channels that have unrelated content. The least they could have done was add 3 24/7 news channels and said that's why they were doing it. It's not like there aren't any news channels available to add.
     
  13. Nov 29, 2012 #53 of 214
    majormax69

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    TOTALLY AGREE!!!! ... Appease us and at least offer us 3 new news channels!!! and a little international flavor would be nice.
     
  14. Nov 29, 2012 #54 of 214
    majormax69

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    Not that I minded.. But why did they just started to Swap HLN and Current channel ( Day and night) and then just pull the newsmix all together? Hmmm

    Something is up!! and I cant wait for the return... To be honest.. I always thought that FOX was upset because their channels were not first on the left... :hurah:
     
  15. Nov 29, 2012 #55 of 214
    TMan

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    Can you elaborate? Does Gannett have an ownership interest in one of the channels previously included in the News Mix channel or something?
     
  16. Nov 29, 2012 #56 of 214
    SomeRandomIdiot

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    Gannett has nothing to do with any channels that were on NewsMix

    CNN/HLN = Time Warner
    Bloomberg = Bloomberg
    CNBC/MSNBC/TWC = NBC Universal
    Fox Business/Fox News = Fox
    Current = Al Gore

    Gannett = USA Today, some daily Newspapers around the Country and a few individual TV Stations in cities such as Atlanta, Tampa and Denver.
     
  17. Nov 29, 2012 #57 of 214
    SomeRandomIdiot

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    To replicate NewsMix one would need

    8 Monitors - @ $200 each (if on sale) = $1600 outlay
    8 DVRs - @ $200 each = $1600 outlay
    Another SWiM 16 and a SWME2 to do it in a DirecTV approved way = $200 outlay
    +8 Receivers on your bill monthly = $48 a month and roughly $550 extra a year

    Remote Control Integration for 8 units? I cannot even begin to put a price on that.

    Bottom line, for 1 SD channel of bandwidth, it would cost one sub over $4k the first year alone to replicate the service.
     
  18. Nov 29, 2012 #58 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    You won't get into politics? YOU were the one who said it was political. FYI - none of the news mix channels were associated with Gannett.
     
  19. Nov 29, 2012 #59 of 214
    ThomasM

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    Well, it actually stands for "The Learning Channel". You ARE learning something, aren't you?
     
  20. Nov 29, 2012 #60 of 214
    TJNash

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    Actually, if you really want to replicate NewsMix, you would need really tiny monitors, wouldn't you? :lol:
     

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