NEXSTAR Stations dark on DIRECTV

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  1. Jul 12, 2019 #61 of 180
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    DirecTv will have a channel or two for those affected.
     
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    Plus you may be able to call and get an LCC shipped to you, if you have compatible equipment. I just did that myself, and they said I *should* have it tomorrow. We shall see. And that's only useful, of course, if you have an antenna that can pick up your locals, or if the cheap indoor antenna they are sending can do the job.
     
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    KRON 4 in San Francisco is affected, but no one watches that station anymore.
     
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    My local CW is affected by this, but I never watch it. They have had guide updated with shows since the channel was taken down.

    I also just noticed that my local CBS has a scroll about a possible dispute with Dish Network.
     
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    I do. They have Better approach for the news.

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    I guess if the meeting of the minds took place on Saturday there was no agreement as my channels are still down :(
     
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    Long time lurker here...

    I lost CBS and Fox in Albuquerque. Having been thinking about cord cutting for a while, the situation has finally prompted me to take a step in that direction. Yesterday, I reconnected my attic antenna which I have not used for probably 10 years. No problem getting all the majors and then some on my Panasonic Plasma. Today, I have an Amazon Recast OTA DVR and Fire Stick streaming dongle coming. I would expect that the dispute will be resolved sooner or later, but I will now be able to see first hand just what programming we will miss going OTA and Streaming.
     
  10. Jul 17, 2019 #70 of 180
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    I would recommend at least call customer care and get a LCC and try it out if you have an HR44 or HR54 Genie receiver. I finally got my indoor OTA configured to get my missing local (CBS) plus NBC, ABC, Fox, CW and Ion affiliates and the LCC has integrated them plus their digital subchannels into my guide. The only local I can't get is PBS but D* carries 2 PBS affiliates for my market so its no big deal.

    TBH if D* ever offers an option like Dish does where you can opt out of getting the satellite provided locals to save $10-$12 per month I would do that in a heartbeat.
     
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    IIRC when they were doing the first tests of the LCC in Las Vegas someone posted marketing material where they were offering $10 off for dropping locals. Not sure if that was something internal someone posted or an actual offer.

    Once the LCC is "officially offered" I agree they'd be smart to do that. The only catch is they really ought to break out the cost of the locals, so you can save more money over time as the price for the locals keeps going up. It would also show people just how much they're being charged, and how much of their yearly price increase is solely caused by locals.
     
  12. Jul 18, 2019 #72 of 180
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    I asked my friend about it and he said it was an actual test offer in the Las Vegas when they were first coming out with LCC. He said it was restricted to customers the AT&T billing system and what AT&T essentially did was when a customer opted for the test they moved them to the "non-locals" structure of the packages which were already $3 cheaper then gave them an ongoing $7 credit which made it $10 cheaper. He said the test is over and isn't accepting new participants but anyone that opted into it kept the credit and are still in the "non-locals" package structure until they request to go back to having locals included.
     
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    And you might see more people doing the math, realizing that putting up an OTA antenna, even with professional outdoor installation, might pay for itself within 2-3 years, the picture is better, and you don't get blacked out when the station owner conglomerates and the huge cable/satellite outfits throw a tantrum.

    The industry is notorious for lack of transparency in matters like this, though.
     
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    It isn't a choice for apartment dwellers for the most part. Especially with not a clear sight with mountains and other obstacles being first floor unit here in Las Vegas. I have tried but, not successful though it is worth trying for people to them an option.
     
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    People love to point out that OTA doesn't work for everyone. Who cares, it will work for over half their customers which will give them a lot more leverage in retransmission disputes so even the customers who can't do OTA will benefit. Even if you can't pick up ALL the channels even if you can pick up one of them if it is the one in dispute you won't be affected by said dispute. The less pressure Directv feels from customers during a dispute the more pressure the local station owner group feels.
     
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    Wild ass guess or did AT&T|DIRECTV make a statement that over half of their customers could receive OTA?
    That number lowered (of course) by the number of receivers compatible with an OTA tuner.
    (Pushing the HS-17 but not having an OTA solution deployed. Not having OTA on every model of receiver.)

    People can tune around their AT&T|DIRECTV equipment (assuming they are in the WAG "over half") but it is a different level of service. OTA provides sub-channels not carried via satellite and recent improvements to EPG provides guide information for an increasing number of OTA only sub-channels. But satellite delivered channels can be recorded and viewed through more tuners on each receiver. Compare how many satellite tuners can be in a system to how many OTA tuners can be added to a system.

    The integration of broadcast channel content has been a major part of DIRECTV since the service was launched. The first channels in 1994 included eastern feeds of network stations (now called distants). Over time (and due to legal issues) local into local was created and DIRECTV seized the opportunity to deliver broadcast channels to their customers. While the broadcast channels are not required on satellite, having broadcast channels on the receiver is a benefit.

    That being said, the marketplace shift ("cutting the cord" or "streaming") that is causing DIRECTV to lose customers is a shift away from "one provider" customers who want everything from one source to customers who don't mind piecing together several content providers. Content they can't get on their main provider is not as big a deal if a customer can use an alternative service. And the new "cord cutter" customers have learned to live within the limitations of other services (limited coverage of OTA, limited number of streams on a streaming service, etc.) But saying OTA will work for over half of DIRECTV customers is generous.
     
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    Wild ass guess, but I read somewhere once that over 90% of homes could receive at least some OTA TV, so even correcting for Directv being more popular in rural areas it makes sense that over half their customers could.

    And yes the fact the HS17 doesn't support the LCC is a problem, but the LCC is still in test market stage for Directv so we'll have to wait and see whether that's a permanent restriction. If it is, then one wonders why they would bother introducing it at all.
     
  19. Jul 20, 2019 #79 of 180
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    “Some” is a lot different than “good”. If you only get, say, 2 of the 4 major networks, how many are even going to bother with OTA (LCC or no)? Especially if it means forfeiting your locals from a provider such as Directv?
     
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    James Long

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    Are you claiming that people with an LCC can no longer get satellite delivered locals? While the initial test offer allowed customers to drop their locals, people are not required to drop locals to get an LCC.
     

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