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NFL on FOX looks like crap.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Bigwayne13, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    It looks Fantastic and Aaron once again is showing his magic and the Packer's Defense is Relentless in not letting Jay Cutler have any success.
  2. Game Fan

    Game Fan Baseball Is Life

    Sep 8, 2007
    It's now clear why Denver dumped Cutler. What a wuss!
  3. makaiguy

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    Sep 24, 2007
    Aiken, SC
    Watching in a timeshare on Hilton Head. Nice Vizio HD set, but being fed by SD Hargray Cable. Picture is atrocious. It's a 4:3 crop of the 16:9 HD feed, so its missing lots of the graphics at either end (score graphics on the left only shows the number but the team names are cropped off). But worse than that, its down-rezzed with HORRIBLE digital artifacts. Looks like severely overcompressed JPG images on the web.

    Noticed the same horrendous action artifacts with ESPN and Big10 basketball yesterday.

    This is far worse than any of the SD stuff on DirecTV (yes, I do watch some SD if I'm interested in the content). If I were the one paying for this service I'd be very upset.
  4. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    And it is Clear why Green Bay Packer's Owner wanted Aaron Rodgers instead of Brett Favre so he dumped Brett Favre and rightly so!!! :D
  5. Game Fan

    Game Fan Baseball Is Life

    Sep 8, 2007
    That's for sure!
  6. w280sax

    w280sax Cool Member

    Apr 6, 2008
    I'm in Charlotte as well and agree that the picture looked like widescreen SD to me earlier. I was just glad that it got better pretty quickly. Guess it was just our local station.
  7. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    Now the Bears can go into deep hibernation! :rolleyes:

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

    Dec 11, 2007
    Mason, MI
    Fox looked great here. Much better than CBS and NBC where there is always tons of macro-blocking.
  9. Jason Whiddon

    Jason Whiddon Hall Of Fame

    Aug 17, 2006
    Only issue I saw was some noise in the grass on far away shots, on both Directv and OTA.
  10. ffemtreed

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    Jan 30, 2008
    To me all of the fox stations pictures look dark and muddy. Everywhere I go I notice this about fox regardless of the affiliate.
  11. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    Gosh, you would have to come over to my house and see my Fox Broadcast as it looks very good not as great as some but definitely not Blur-O-Vision.
  12. jleupen

    jleupen Legend

    Jul 26, 2007
    Totally agree. Fox looked good as usual. It is the CBS macro blocking that is almost impossible to watch.
  13. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I don't think most folks are disputing your perception of what you believe are seeing.

    However, I do know that on 5 HDTV displays here, FOX was stellar for the weekend football, and my DVR recordings repeat that experience.
  14. n3ntj

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    Dec 18, 2006
    It looked fine here near Lancaster, PA. I really notice how bad 1080i looks during CBS games when there is any motion. Almost the entire picture breaks up. It doesn't look like that at all on Fox (720p). Things like look a little crisper on CBS but it all goes to hell whenever the camera moves around.
  15. Hutchinshouse

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    Sep 27, 2006
    So weird that for some it's great, for others it's poor. It seems the affiliates play a big part in the overall picture quality.

    FOX is better now than it was say a year ago. However, still not on par with CBS and NFL Network. Here in So Cal, CBS is spot on. Zero micro blocking and razor sharp.
  16. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD

    Of course, affiliates mean a lot to the PQ (and sound as well). They are a key portion of the final delivery system.

    There is, of course, also the possiblity of displays that have issues with 720p or 1080i and/or poor setup in the homes.

    A lot of the complaining about 720p usually makes me wonder if some have TVs that do not handle 720p very well or they are forcing it to 1080i and their processors do not handle the conversion well.

    But there are so many variables in the delivery of TV to the human eyeball. At least when we are dealing with national channels like HBO or ESPN or YES, those of us on DirecTV can compare results. When you get the locals involved there is another level of variables.
  17. jahgreen

    jahgreen Godfather

    Dec 15, 2006
    It looked OK to me. But it sounded like crap, as it always does when Joe Buck's announcing--whatever the sport.
  18. n3ntj

    n3ntj Hall Of Fame

    Dec 18, 2006
    Something else I didn't consider was what subchannels the local CBS stations are using. Here, our local CBS affiliate WHP, also has a My Network feed on their 21-2 channel. For stations without a subchannel, the CBS feed probably looks much better as they have more bandwidth available to dedicate to their CBS feed.

    Does KCBS have a subchannel? If not, that may explain why you say they have no microblocking and is razor sharp.
  19. Richierich

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    Jan 10, 2008
    I have always thought that it had to do with subchannels and a lack of full bandwidth as so many people have no problems at all with their reception but others state it is awful as with Fox the other night but it proved out to be the fault of the affiliate who had not flipped a switch to HD.
  20. wilbur_the_goose

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    Aug 16, 2006
    I used to be a hater of FOX's PQ. But then I bought a new TV (Panny VT25).

    FOX still isn't as good as CBS here in Philly, but it's MUCH better now than it was on my 2002-era Sony HDTV. (Strange, though - FOX Sports is still nowhere near as good as other FOX programming)

    So - I think it's two things:
    1. The local station
    2. Your TV's ability to handle 720p well.

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