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NFL Sunday Ticket online without DirecTV sub

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by bonscott87, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. pappy97

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    First as to the bolded, I did see that, so you are probably right on that.

    As to why someone would leave, I was suggesting someone who needs NFLST but was otherwise unhappy with DirecTV might feel the freedom to now leave for an alternative and still have NFL ST (yes an online version of NFLST, but still NFLST nonetheless).

    If customers who are recent cancelee's of DirecTV are not able to get NFLST online, then of course this discussion is moot but that was the thiniking there.
     
  2. bidger

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    At some point the NFL is going to have to assess the contract, probably 2014 :), and weigh the benefits of exclusivity of ST vs. whatever adoption of their Network has taken place in the interim. I know they signed an agreement with some cable alliance, but it doesn't make NFLN or RZC available to me through TWC. I saw James Dolan of Cablevision on an NYC Sports Talk Show and the resentment over the exclusivity of ST runs deep. IMO, that's why AMC isn't available in HD to DirecTV. If they want to be the equivalent of ESPN, they're gonna have to play nice 'cause hard ball ain't workin'.

    Yeah, DirecTV is a Sports Lovers Paradise, but you know what it ain't? A provider of quality High Speed Internet and that's my priority right now. And, unless I'm mistaken, that's not likely to change any time soon. I can't pick up all the networks in HD with antenna, but I did get an offer from TWC that after my one year offer for Roadrunner is up, I can add Basic Cable for just a dollar more per month. Yes, I know I could split the line myself, but I'd rather be on the up and up if they ever pay a call. Anyway, I'm leaning one of two ways: either cancel in late Feb. 2011 and pay $40 ETF or suspend for six mos. every year and just do Choice Select.

    I'll admit it that I was greatly disappointed that the DirecTV tuner for MCE was abandoned, even more so now that I have W7. The Ceton Cable Card is rolling out, and while I wouldn't make that investment now, if it continues and Tru2Way is adopted and the price falls, I'll be sorely tempted. In the meantime, I'm just looking to cut costs. A $350 ST sub wouldn't do that, but I only want RZC-HD anyway.
     
  3. Hoosier205

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    You know who Cablevision can blame for not having access to Sunday Ticket? Cablevision. DirecTV bid and won. Cablevision did not. DirecTV was willing to pay the big bucks.
     
  4. bidger

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    Just an observation of how the man reacted, not saying he was right. We've seen Comcast take the same approach to criticism of their exclusive RSNs. I really doubt that a cable service restricted to 4 states could seriously be contender for what's supposed to be a nationwide package. But, it doesn't stop the protests.
     
  5. dcowboy7

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    They really have to 2015 since the contract runs thru jan 2015 & the 1st game of the new contract wouldnt be until sep 2015.
     
  6. sum_random_dork

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    Ramcm, thanks for understanding what I was saying.
     
  7. bidger

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    I seriously doubt the NFL will allow a valuable property like ST to lapse until opening day of the Season. Providing that the NFL is still willing, DirecTV will be proactive as they have been prior, but like I said, I think the adoption, or lack thereof, of the NFL Network by all cable providers might give them pause. Think about it, the NFL went to C-Band and DirecTV because they wanted to avoid ruffling the feathers of local affiliates. Now, C-Band is gone and DirecTV offers locals in over 90% of the US and continues to expand, so that no longer holds true. I doubt any one cable co. would bid to the extent that DirecTV does since it's not crucial to their very existence, but if the NFL decided exclusivity was no longer necessary, DirecTV would be hurtin' big time.
     
  8. Hoosier205

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    I sincerely doubt that the NFL would allow more than one US provider to carry Sunday Ticket. They have expressed a preference towards DBS companies rather than cable and also keeping the availability limited. Local ad revenue would be much greater concern with a cable provider as well. Very different animals in that arena.
     
  9. pappy97

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    You may be right, but as an example of where the NFL does not do exclusivity, one only needs to look at Canada. In Canada the NFL does not do NFLST exclusive to one provider, both the major sat providers have it plus most cable ops too. Granted the NFL's NFLST revenues are not nearly what they are in the US (and, except the Toronto and Southern Ontario area, it's a different dynamic since the NFL is really popular outside those areas), but the point is they do have it for Canada and it's not out of the realm of possibility to do the same in the US.

    For the next set of NFL TV contracts, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL decided to air more games on the NFL network. I always figured the endgame with the NFL Network was to one day do the broadcasts for all games, and have no need for contracts with FOX, CBS, and ESPN, and keep all the advertising revenue themselves.
     
  10. Hoosier205

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    I'm all for more games being on NFL Network because the PQ is top notch. I just hope they sorted out their audio issues from years past. They attempted DD 5.1 last year. They were able to provide it from the stadium. The problem was even though the crew at the stadium was providing DD 5.1, the network control center was unable to transmit it on for broadcast. I believe that said there were equipment related issues and they hoped to sort it out for this season. It's hard to tell if they have or not. The vast majority of preseason games on NFL Network have not been NFL Network broadcasts, but local broadcasts.

    I doubt they will move towards broadcasting games entirely themselves. They make a heck of a lot of money selling the rights to Fox, ESPN, NBC, and CBS.
     
  11. Bob Coxner

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    Canada is different in that their telecommunications laws don't allow exclusive contracts. If the NFL wants to play in Canada they have to play by Canadian rules. The NFL doesn't have that problem here.
     
  12. bidger

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    There are times when I forget the NFL Network exists. When the games start at 1:00PM EST, the channel goes black for all intents and purposes. Yeah, there's an update board with scores and stats, but so what? The only other League-dedicated Network I watch is MLB, but I bet none of the others do that. If they really want to force providers than take the Monday Night game away from ESPN.
     
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    NFLN is doing 0 games this preseason.
    All 65 games they are replaying are either the network broadcasts or the locals versions.


    ESPN pays $1.1 billion annually (hey that even more than directv) for MNF thru the 2013 season so dont think thats happening.
     
  14. Paul Secic

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    Let it be open to all!
     
  15. lifelong

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    DirecTV is on the hook for the Sunday Ticket rights fee next regardless of whether there is football or not. With the NFL steamrolling towards a lockout next year, that check could be getting VERY hard to write.
     
  16. Skyboss

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    Because competition is good for everyone.

    Look, I'm a D sub and I get Sunday Ticket. But in one season when we were moving, we spent 3 months in an apartment waiting for our house to be built. During that time, DirecTV was not an option and we missed out on Sunday Ticket that year. Its complete and utter BS to have exclusivity on something like this.

    ST is good for DirecTV and good for the NFL. At the end of the day, its total crap for the consumer.
     
  17. joed32

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    The networks don't make much money from NFL carriage if any. They want it so they can air all of their "promos" for their other shows for hours on end.
     

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