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Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by la24philly, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Dec 7, 2012 #181 of 602
    djnaldo

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    They seemed to be making progress without Fehr or Bettmen being involved. Then the players insist on bringing Fehr back in and it all blows up. Coincidence? I think not.
     
  2. Jan 1, 2013 #182 of 602
    la24philly

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    its been a very long time but finally, we might have a deal.

    NHL proposed a 300 page deal over the weekend, conceded to 3 areas on some issues in favor of players, PA countered with 22 pages which is great, means the agree on most issues. so the final items to get worked out I hope gets resolved, and below it might be happening. Both sides meeting tonight. Both parties were working last night and up working all day today.

    Patrick caisee covering the story, just got word from someone on the NHL PA side


    Patrick Caisse‏@PatrickCaisse

    An NHLPA member just told me that he expects an agreement in principle "sooner than later". #Lockout #NHL


    lets keep our fingers crossed

    if all goes well

    im hearing deal would have to be reached by jan 11 camp opens jan 12 season starts jan 19 a 48 game schedule, the finals would go into late JUNE.

    deal would be for 10 years with an opt out after 8

    so we be guaranteed 8 years of hockey.

    I know I haven't been on lately, but we are finally very very close.
     
  3. Jan 1, 2013 #183 of 602
    trh

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    Meeting tonight at 9pm eastern. Both sides feeling the pressure. Finally.
     
  4. Jan 1, 2013 #184 of 602
    la24philly

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    meetings have ended, NHL has countered, but with a big

    COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT about 427 pages.


    they will use the night and both will regroup tomorrow.

    this is very good. Please note tomorrow the disclaimer must be filed by midnight if the union is to dissolve. I don't think that will happen based of these last few days. however if the train falls off, and even if they don't make the file deadline to dissolve, they can always have another 5 day player vote and redo the process that's if everything falls apart.

    but were very close, and as TRH said, finally. between now and next Friday jan 11 its going to be very intense. but make no mistake

    jan 11 is the deadline or the season will be cancelled, which means both sides will use COURT which is the last option
     
  5. Jan 5, 2013 #185 of 602
    la24philly

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    things are progressing well.

    here is an update



    Scott beckenbaugh the mediator has done a nice job saving another meltdown on Thursday. He began doing shuttle meetings, where he would go back and forth (3blocks apart) from NHL n NHL pa buildings. He was able to bridge the gap and both sides have agreed to make conessions. Below are the 4 issues left from reaching a deal.

    Pensions / year 2 cap season 13/14 / Varriance / Term

    Pensions are now complete they have agreed


    year 2 cap PA has come down from 70 to 65 then to 63 - the NHL finally and its the 1 thing they haven't moved off of during this whole 4 month battle. The finally came up from 60 to 63-64 million if the PA agrees to something the NHL wants. Which would be contract term of CBA.

    Varriance NHL is at 10% came up from 5% originally PA was at 25% then dropped to 15 %. so entering the day NHL was at 10% PA 15% so not sure what the final number, but the mediator probably was able to get an agreement with that, my guess they met in the middle, will just have to wait and see what the number is or NHL came up to 15 and probably say ok you have to agree to something we want.


    Term NHL wants 10 yr / 8 opt PA wants 10/ 7 opt out or 7 flat


    So as said the NHL came up on year 2 cap, with belief that's agreed upon the PA coming up with term of the CBA to 8 years. however not sure but Fehr wants minimum salary's of 800,000 in year 7 and 8 and not sure if he got that from NHL or agreed to the 8 years al together since the NHL came up on year 2 cap, will have to see.

    BOTTOM LINE scot beckenbaugh did a nice job saving the NHL from disaster and may have finally gotten these 2 sides to agree on a deal.

    the other thing is the PA at 6pm is expected to vote to give Fehr authorization to file a disclaimer of interest if everything derails and falls apart. At this point I don't think they will do that, but until there is a signed deal and ratified you have all options open.


    Lastly I realize this is a long note this was just posted by former player Brett Hedican

    Lets hope its real. but as said lets not pop the cork yet, lets wait for the lawyer and vote and player rafitication of this deal.

    here is what brett just tweeted.

    https://twitter.com/BretHedican/status/287659373680029696



    Sorry for the long post but that Is where we stand with the NHL, I'll update as we go along, as of now both sides still meeting.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2013 #186 of 602
    la24philly

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    ok, just as I thought the PA finally agreed to come up to 10 yr / 8 opt out.

    looks like 1 reporter, still has a bad sense, and rightfully so. These 2 sides still hate each other. The mediator is the guy who kept this ship sailing.

    But based off of everyone tweets, I would say a tentative agreement will be reached in 24 hrs.
     
  7. Jan 5, 2013 #187 of 602
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    You said that almost a week ago.

    Wake me when they really DO resolve this mess.
     
  8. Jan 5, 2013 #188 of 602
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    Thanks for the updates, its looking good, hopefully we will have hockey this season after all.
     
  9. Jan 5, 2013 #189 of 602
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    I hope so. I miss my Blackhawks.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2013 #190 of 602
    la24philly

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    early reports saying, both sides are still meeting and planning to into late sat night, will keep posted.

    But 3 people have tweeted, saying the deal is done, tonight the lawyers are putting all of this on paper and getting the language set for court.

    Both sides the NHL and PA are preparing to highlight what's in the deal so both sides know's what to expect when they vote.

    Either tonight or tomorrow I would expect to hear both sides have announced a tentative agreement, Monday / Tuesday probably would be used to have the NHL / owners vote and sign off on it and also the NHL PA and the players would have to vote / ratify the deal. Depending on how fast they do that, once both sides officially agree and its sealed and set and filed in court.

    I would say then Bettman will announce the End of the lockout. he will probably go over details then.

    its going to take time, to get all the players back playing overseas. Also a schedule will have to be made. Logistics, planning, etc.

    this will be a 48 game reg season schedule East will play east teams only and west will play west only.

    As far as NHL center ice and GCL pricing that will be announced once the lockout is officially ended and once the new schedule is released.

    If I had to guess a price I would say around between 100-130 for the season that's just my guess, they won't give NHL CI for free. I'm just trying to guess what the price usually is in January.

    feel free to guess and share your thoughts.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2013 #191 of 602
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    I did, they made progress then but didn't agree on the 4 remaining issues left, which almost meant in derailment.

    However they have met for over a week straight and now have agreed on a lot of issues they haven't when I posted last Monday.

    This deal is going to be finished and the lockout is going to end this week.
     
  12. Jan 5, 2013 #192 of 602
    la24philly

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    me to, I know we stated this before and said there close and it falls apart, and so forth, but finally I'm able to say were close, and I know both sides have agreed on the reaming issues. I hope the usual derail of it doesn't happen again, but I don't see it happening this time with both sides making agreements on issues that started the lockout.

    This lockout ends this week.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2013 #193 of 602
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    I hope so!
     
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    what, hope is a 4 letter word. Lord where is the aggressive dominating vader that I know, the one who brought boots to asses to those apartment Aholes who tried to remove your dish.


    Bring your Blackhawk energy and show it off.

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  15. Jan 5, 2013 #195 of 602
    Lord Vader

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    :D
     
  16. Jan 5, 2013 #196 of 602
    la24philly

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    there she is welcome back, I should have posted this weeks ago but here is the fight between


    bettman and fehr


    gary is the chicken in this clip

    [YOUTUBE]W4WGQmWcrbs[/YOUTUBE]
     
  17. Jan 5, 2013 #197 of 602
    Lord Vader

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    Both of them are idiots. I hope Bettman is out after this season.
     
  18. Jan 5, 2013 #198 of 602
    la24philly

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    its after 6pm no word yet, but player voting has ended 51% needed to give D Fehr the authorization to file a disclaimer of interest if all things fall apart. Personally I don't think they will do that or I don't think it will be needed since sides have made progress. However its like playing cards, you want to have an ace up your sleeve if needed.

    The mediator who since last Thursday has done a great job, in almost 2 weeks he basically has a deal just about complete, and has gotten both sides to make conessions and from reports today all issues have been resolved.

    Bettman has stated if no deal by jan 11 season is cancelled, he plans to announce that on thurs jan 10 if no deal is reached. At this point I doubt this will happen since both sides are about to reach a deal.


    So this week is judgement week. Will no one way or another if we will have hockey or not.

    to me this has been a very long game of ping pong, I just hope the idiots put there ego's aside, follow the mediator and vote and sign off on the deal.

    In the end the MVP will be scot beckenbaugh for once again like he did in 04-05 gets another CBA deal complete for NHL.
     
  19. Jan 5, 2013 #199 of 602
    la24philly

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    new tweets and updates


    ok this is good, as mentioned before but now we got confirmation the NHL finally has moved up from 60m, the players still want them to come up more. Not sure what they came up to, but orgianlly players wanted 70m then came down to 65m then 63.

    both sides are still meeting and reports say this will go on thru late sat night, would be surprised if they go past midnight.

    Fehr looks like he is still trying to get more out of the NHL, he basically I think is fighting for every dollar he can get for his players.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2013 #200 of 602
    Lord Vader

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    Millionaires fighting with multi-millionaires. Pathetic.
     

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