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NHL Fans, we hear you and we're acting on your concerns and ideas (long response)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Satelliteracer, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Dec 7, 2007 #1001 of 2038
    Cobra

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    thx Mocco, got it here also
     
  2. Dec 7, 2007 #1002 of 2038
    Mocco71

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    No problem... they just like to keep us on our toes. What's funny was the CI feed in the 700's was in HD the whole time.

    Wow 1,000 posts... can you stay make this a sticky already?!? The only other thread in this forum with more posts is the original NHL CI thread that was active until the satellite guy started this one! Oh wait, the mods won't classify negative threads as sticky.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2007 #1003 of 2038
    GutBomb

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    edit: taken back :D

    I didn't see it in the guide, I'm an idiot. DirecTV I love you again. please forgive me.

    The philly feed is the HD signal downconverted to SD, but it's 16:9 smashed into a 4:3 frame.

    The altitude feed is HD.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2007 #1004 of 2038
    Mocco71

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    782-1? It says HD. take it back, take it back! lol
     
  5. Dec 7, 2007 #1005 of 2038
    311Man

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    Well unfortunately...I live in the Philly market which is the black hole for RSN thanks to comcast.
     
  6. Dec 8, 2007 #1006 of 2038
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    Did anyone else notice that the Flyers/Avs game last night on NHL CI looked like a 16:9 feed shrunk to 4:3? I verified it was NOT an HD channel (-1) that simply wasn't being reset to fill the screen. It was an SD NHL CI channel. I checked a few other HD (16:9) channels to make sure they were displayed properly and went back to the game. A little weird.
     
  7. Dec 8, 2007 #1007 of 2038
    Mocco71

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    Not sure, watched the HD NHL CI feed which was the Altitude broadcast.
     
  8. Dec 8, 2007 #1008 of 2038
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    I noticed that also. Kind of like the opposite of watching TBS or TNT where they stretch it, this looked like it was squashed. Instead of short fat people we saw tall skinny ones. Looks like it was originally a 16x9 HD signal down converted and squashed to a 4x3 SD format.
     
  9. Dec 8, 2007 #1009 of 2038
    JMartinko

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    I didn't get to see the game on TV last night, unfortunately I was sitting in my seats at Center Ice in the Pepsi Center. :D

    I actually posted to say that I saw the same thing on the CSN feed of the Flyers/Wild game on Wed. on the SD channel. I used the stretch mode on the D* box to put the SD channel version of the game in Widescreen and the picture ratio was just fine. It looked like the game was actually a 'backhaul' feed as some of the commercials were not inserted and you actually heard the announcers chatter between on-air time. I suspect the same was true with the game last night. It may be that Comcast is allowing the 16:9 HD feed to be used by NHLCI (but without permission to transmit in true HD resolution), and also will not provide the capability to chop off the sides and convert the game to a 4:3 SD. D* most likely does not have the equipment to take a widescreen shot and chop it off to make it SD size so they just squeezed the feed. What I don't understand is why they don't just letterbox it, but I suspect D* doesn't have that equipment either. D* is not usually in the business of producing TV shows, just passing them through.
     
  10. Dec 8, 2007 #1010 of 2038
    n3ntj

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    I think I've named a new term.. Squash-O-Vision.. where a network squashes a 16:9 video feed to fit into 4:3.

    Book 'em, Dano.
     
  11. Dec 8, 2007 #1011 of 2038
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    The games online for CI have been like that especially when they've used the FSN New York feed, among others. I'm surprise it carried over to the tv package too.
     
  12. Dec 8, 2007 #1012 of 2038
    Mocco71

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    Glad to see the HNIC feed was only briefly cut off during game 1 and 2. What's funny is the NESN feed was left on (and is still on at 10:05) on 770-1 the whole time! Man, that guy is going to get axed if D* finds out he forgot to flip the switch!
     
  13. Dec 9, 2007 #1013 of 2038
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    I am keeping track of all HD games that are available vs those actually broadcast by Directv through the month of December. I am also comparing with the listings on the Dish network site. I try to record at least a few minutes of every game that should be available, just make sure the game was actually not blacked out. By the way I usually record them off the RSNs, since the mappings to the 700s has been sketchy. So far so good since Wednesday. I don't think DirecTV has missed a game.

    My source for available games is nhl.com. However I saw that the guide had a few extra games not listed as HD on nhl.com on the sub channels last night, namely:
    Islanders-Lightning on FSN-NY
    Ducks-Preds FSN-S
    Coyotes-Kings FSN-W

    Were these upconverts? Or last minute HD broadcasts?
     
  14. Dec 9, 2007 #1014 of 2038
    Oilfan

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    None of those three games were in HD, they were all upconverts. Well, HDNET had the NYI-TB game.
     
  15. Dec 9, 2007 #1015 of 2038
    Satster

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    Thanks a lot! That means I can continue to rely on NHL.com. Of course it would have been better if more games were actually available in HD. (Yes, I did catch the HDnet feed).

    I am hoping that once the new Fox Master Control is in place, we will experience our next jump in HD availability. I search everyday for news on that. It was supposed to be 4Q07. Hopefully soon.

    Then again, between that and HNIC in HD, I would vote for HNIC.
     
  16. Dec 9, 2007 #1016 of 2038
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    Yeah I've been wondering that too. Anyone know?

    Wow, and looking at todays schedule we should have all 4 games in HD. :)
     
  17. Dec 9, 2007 #1017 of 2038
    n3ntj

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    Since the Islanders were out of town, FSN NY did not do the game in HD.

    I also watched the Maple Leafs/Bruins game from the CBC HNIC feed and it was nice that D* left the game feed on b/w games. Maybe they are finally learning..
     
  18. Dec 9, 2007 #1018 of 2038
    ericbarton

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    More likely is that the control room fell asleep...
     
  19. Dec 9, 2007 #1019 of 2038
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    I think their control room needs a manager to be present at all times. The folks working "it" don't get "it".
     
  20. Dec 9, 2007 #1020 of 2038
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    Wow, 4 games in HD today, with one of them having dual feeds in HD. It has gotten much better. :D
     

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