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No More FOX Saturday MLB Blackouts in 2014

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by metallo, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Oct 2, 2012 #1 of 37

    metallo AllStar

    Oct 13, 2009
    MLB reaches eight-year TV agreement with FOX, Turner


  2. Oct 2, 2012 #2 of 37

    mrro82 Legend

    Sep 11, 2012
    Astoria, OR
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    John Strk

    John Strk Legend

    Oct 16, 2009
    Honestly I cannot stand Fox coverage of anything especially MLB but at least this is progress. I hope the other Saturday regional games are made available to MLB Extra Innings. I'm tired of having to watch only one regional game in my area while other teams are on fox somewhere else.

    Now if MLB could just take a long look at Blackout territories!!! :mad:
  4. Oct 2, 2012 #4 of 37

    mrro82 Legend

    Sep 11, 2012
    Astoria, OR
    You could try a MLB.TV subscription and get a Roku box. The subscription is cheaper than extra innings and all games are in HD. With them no longer blacking out games thats a win win. Or if you have a ps3 or an Xbox 360 its the same way.
  5. Oct 2, 2012 #5 of 37

    HGuardian Godfather

    Aug 9, 2010
    Where are all the stooges who made dozens of posts defending the previous MLB and Fox deal as "smart business" and "right" for them because it somehow protected the local affiliates? Oh nevermind, it doesn't matter what decision or deals they make it's always the right thing because they are both multibillion dollar corporations, and we all know they always make the right business decisions.

    I was really hoping NBC would get the deal. National Fox coverage is pretty bad all around, especially in MLB. Their announcers, graphics, and video quality are sub-par at best. That being said it is better that they aren't stuck in 1960 anymore with Fox Saturday Baseball.

    As far as the TV territories, this idea has been in my head for a while: Keep the in-market territories exactly as they are but change one thing: Maximum of 1 (or 2 in NY, LA or Chicago) team out-of-market blackouts. This solution stops the excessive blackouts in certain areas of the country, and for example keeps Reds fans in Memphis from having to buy EI just to watch Reds games because they are still "in-market" but they could also watch on MLB.TV because it's likely the Cardinals would be the only exclusive team in that territory in my scenario. The teams don't lose fan territory, they just lose exclusivity for some of their territory.
  6. Oct 2, 2012 #6 of 37

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    I am happy that FOX produces MLB games with 16:9 graphics placement and 16:9 framing as well. Now if they would eliminate the ticker at the bottom altogether...I'd be ecstatic. Every sports broadcast should be this way.
  7. Oct 2, 2012 #7 of 37

    davidatl14 Icon

    Mar 24, 2006
    I didn't see many people "defending the Fox exclusivity window", as savy business.

    Saw a lot of people saying it couldn't be addressed until a New Contract was agreed upon. Thus they were correct.

    Especially when the "usual suspects" posted threads every Saturday insisting They were "Mad as Hell" and something had to be done today. Wasn't going to ever happen during the existing contract.

    I do like your idea about restricting the multiple teams claiming of the same markets.

    Don't think it will happen but still a good idea.

    My idea during the duration of the existing Fox contract has been to only allow two games for Fox to put in their exclusive Saturday window and insist all other 26 MLB teams start their games outside the TV viewing window.

    Glad to see the changes coming in 2014 though that will make it a moot point.

    Also found it interesting to see that MLB allowed Fox Media Group to double the number of Windows to broadcast in yearly from 26 to 52.

    12 Games will be considered National Fox Games and the other 40 Games will be shown on other Fox Channels. Very likely either a FX package or a package for the Rumored All sports network that Speed will be converted into soon.

    Positives all around for MLB and MLB fans.
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    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    How does that make things any better? The blackout rules are the same. And the PQ is substantially worse.
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    cariera Icon

    Oct 27, 2006
    From the announcement:

    "MLB on Tuesday announced an eight-year national media rights agreements with FOX and TBS, and combined with the recently announced ESPN deal, the three contracts will deliver a combined $12.4 billion -- more than a 100-percent increase in annual rights fees to MLB over the current arrangements."

    Where do you think that $$$ is going to be coming from? It's from networks demanding more from local affiliates which in turn will demand more from pay tv providers which will lead to more squabbles over channels being pulled and finger pointing. It's from TBS and ESPN trying to recoup their (I mean our) $ they threw at MLB. It also would not be a stretch to see MLBEI increase in price since you will now be getting access to more games.

    Bottom line - this (the rights fees, not the Saturday games) is bad for the baseball fan and sports fans in general because we are paying for this.
  10. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
  11. zimm7778

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    Actually I defend the right of a business to do whatever it wants with its product when it is not that big a deal and you know ahead of time what you are getting. This is baseball, not solving world hunger. So in that vein, yes I'll defend them. No one died, lost a job, didn't get medical care, or any other item of importance over this. Never said it was a savvy business decision once. Personally, I hated the rule but I subbed knowing what it was in advance every year. And I'm glad it's gone. I had been telling my wife for a month I would probably no longer sub due to the amount of baseball on TV without it. But with this I may change my mind.
  12. espnjason

    espnjason Armchair Referee

    Sep 30, 2008
    It would be better if they started next year, just a thought.
  13. hallrk

    hallrk Legend

    Apr 15, 2010
    Good news that the black outs for Saturday games are lifted. Bad news is that FOX is still in the baseball business. I have never liked their production of games. I wish NBC could have got the Saturday package. I always thought they did by far the best job of covering baseball by the networks.
  14. gpg

    gpg Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2006
    Long Island
    Any additional Saturday coverage is great, but I wish they would have added all the Fox regional games too.
  15. n3ntj

    n3ntj Hall Of Fame

    Dec 18, 2006
    Good to see that Fox and MLB did something 'fan friendly'.
  16. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    NBC has NHL to deal with and there is overlap with NHL and MLB.
  17. bwaldron

    bwaldron Impossible Dreamer

    Oct 24, 2005
    Yes. Without them, this news isn't all that meaningful to me -- most teams are now scheduling games outside the FOX window, so the number of added available games won't be huge. This past season, the majority of games I wanted to see but could not were FOX games being shown elsewhere regionally.

    Still good news, of course.
  18. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    The teams don't schedule the games.
  19. cmasia

    cmasia Icon

    Sep 18, 2007
    Las Vegas
    Teams absolutely do schedule the times of their home games, and on most Saturdays as Bwaldron said, there were no non - Fox games played in the Fox exclusive window.

    FWIW, based on the 2012 season, Fox's exclusivity / blackouts meant we missed about 55 games, or a bit more than 2% of all games played.
  20. MikeW

    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    You do realize that Gowdy, Garagiola and Kubek wouldn't be the announcers? :)

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